{"type":"rich","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Transistor","provider_url":"https://transistor.fm","author_name":"The B2B CMO Podcast with Jon Miller and Sydney Sloan","title":"“Write for Humans, Optimize for Agents” with Chris Koehler","html":"","width":"100%","height":180,"duration":2313,"description":"Chris Koehler is the Chief Marketing Officer of Twilio, the platform for conversations in the AI era. Chris has over 25 years of experience in leading marketing, sales, and product teams across companies like Adobe, Box, and E-Trade. Lately, he's been chasing a question Jon Miller happens to care a lot about: what happens to discovery, to personalization, and to the CMO's mandate itself in the age of AI. \nChris joins Jon to discuss his four-pillar framework for strategic marketing, how his marketing team is approaching the seismic shift from SEO to AEO, and why the future of GTM belongs to teams bold enough to reimagine their workflows entirely, not just optimize them.\nEpisode TakeawaysEliminate marketing jargon such as MQLs, SQLs, or marketing-qualified pipeline from executive and board communications. Focus on speaking in terms of revenue, profitability, and growth coverage. CMOs should translate all reporting to C-suite language and save marketing metrics for internal scorecards, where they belong.CMOs need to own the revenue number alongside the CRO. If sales misses the revenue target, that's marketing’s fault too. Marketing teams shouldn’t blame sales or product; instead, frame marketing as a co-owner of pipeline and revenue. GTM leaders should build formal shared accountability structures with their CRO rather than treating revenue as someone else's problem.Treat AEO (Answer Engine Optimization) as a company-wide imperative, not solely a content team task. AEO isn't just an extension of SEO, it requires every team to rethink how content is structured, formatted, and prioritized for both human readers and AI agents. GTM leaders should run a company-wide AEO education session to get ahead of executives sending panicked \"we're not showing up in ChatGPT\" messages.Pipeline is the path, not the destination; so stop celebrating it as a win. Delineate clearly between pipeline (a means) and revenue (the goal), and frame everything through the lens of revenue...","thumbnail_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/knMyK_PHzrcpzD9ir526SwtsYds11WxoXrHnF5DGctU/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:400/h:400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS9kYjhj/NTc3MGVhMjg4MDA1/NDkyMjczYWZmOTU1/YTRkMS5wbmc.webp","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300}