{"type":"rich","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Transistor","provider_url":"https://transistor.fm","author_name":"Words in the Wilderness","title":"Why Words Help with Dr. Stephanie Aspin","html":"","width":"100%","height":180,"duration":2471,"description":"You were probably taught that poetry has a meaning, and your job is to find it. That's exactly why so many of us decided it wasn't for us.In this episode, Jacky is joined by Dr. Stephanie Aspin  - poet, therapist, academic, and author of Poetry and Therapy: Why Words Help  - for a conversation that might just change how you think about language, feeling, and what it means to be witnessed.Stephanie describes a poem not as a text to be decoded but as a little machine  -  a kinetic object where meaning shifts and moves. And in that movement, something therapeutic happens: language speaks back. It holds what we can't say directly. It gives us agency over a story we thought was fixed.In this episode:Why poetry has a bad rap  The poem as container: how an image can hold fear, grief, rage at arm's lengthWhat it means when language \"speaks back\"  - and why writing can reveal what we didn't know we knewHow to take your very first tentative steps with therapeutic poetry (even if you're completely resistant)Why all poetry is therapeutic  - whether it was written to be or not  | Quote from the episode: \"The me in my poems is the articulate me that's okay  - and says I'm okay. And the world, if it thinks I'm not okay, it's wrong.\"About Dr. Stephanie Aspin:Websites: https://stephanieaspin.com/https://a-typicats.com/Link to her book: https://www.pccs-books.co.uk/products/poetry-and-therapy-why-words-helpPoem Links:https://www.scottishpoetrylibrary.org.uk/poem/the-masque-of-anarchy/https://www.poetryfoundation.org/collections/101581/poems-of-protest-resistance-and-empowermenthttps://www.poetryfoundation.org/education/glossary/found-poemhttps://blackwells.co.uk/bookshop/product/Revolution-in-Poetic-Language-by-Julia-Kristeva-author-Margaret-Waller-translator/9780231214599?srsltid=AfmBOopuTEDNlgFqEEJYiqZHR4r7ZQN-FLs-RjDCnnQvMNvl2349pMrd","thumbnail_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/4hfrLdDjmBqkJYae5r1SuOybbLzJ0ewMdYtN5Mi3f9o/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:400/h:400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS8wYjA5/ZTAxNzFjMmI4ZDI3/NGU0ZGJlYjllNDRh/MTk0Ni5qcGc.webp","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300}