{"type":"rich","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Transistor","provider_url":"https://transistor.fm","author_name":"Getting Personal with Compt","title":"Getting Personal Episode 41 | The Messy Middle of Work with Angela Howard","html":"","width":"100%","height":180,"duration":2380,"description":"Work isn’t separate from the rest of life anymore.\nIn this episode of Getting Personal with Compt, Lauren sits down with Angela Howard, culture strategist and founder of Call for Culture, to talk about what it means to lead right now — in a moment where everything feels like it’s happening all at once.\nFrom burnout and political tension to AI and shifting expectations of work, Angela describes this moment as the “messy middle of tension.” And instead of trying to escape it, she challenges leaders to move through it with intention, care, and courage.\nThey talk about what happens when the realities of the world show up at work, why traditional approaches to culture change are falling short, and what it looks like to build something more human from here.\nIn this episode, we discuss: Why “if it’s happening in the world, it’s happening at work” is changing leadership  The idea of the “messy middle” and what it means for organizations  A powerful moment from Culture Impact Lab: a eulogy for DEI  The difference between leadership and management (and why it matters right now)  Why small, everyday actions are the real drivers of culture  How focusing on local impact and community can be a more sustainable path forward This is a conversation about letting go of perfect answers — and choosing how to show up anyway.\nThe Culture Impact Lab is May 13-14 in Chicago. Visit callforculture.com to learn more.\nWant to be a guest on the show? Email lauren@compt.io. ","thumbnail_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/4PTwO-ILVlr9Lpv1ikI2JEwma3XVrB4F5YqJrIqT3W8/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:400/h:400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS9jY2Mw/MjM2ZTc4NjNmYTc0/YjAyOTM2MzgwN2I4/MGJjYi5wbmc.webp","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300}