{"type":"rich","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Transistor","provider_url":"https://transistor.fm","author_name":"Mostly Middle Tennessee Business Podcast","title":"Hiring Without The Headache w/ Ashley Pack :: Ep 286 The Mostly Middle Tennessee Business Podcast ","html":"","width":"100%","height":180,"duration":4890,"description":"In this episode of the Mostly Middle Tennessee Business Podcast, Jim McCarthy sits down with HR and recruiting pro Ashley Pack, founder of Four Point People, to talk about how small and mid-sized businesses can finally fix their hiring, retention, and culture problems.\nAshley shares how she went from teaching to transportation to making 200 cold calls a day during the pandemic, then into payroll and now running a recruiting and fractional HR firm focused on blue collar and trades. She explains why so many owners struggle to keep good people, what they’re doing wrong in interviews and onboarding, and how a few simple systems can completely change the way your team performs.\nIf you’re a business owner tired of bad hires, high turnover, or culture drama, this conversation will hit home.\n\nTimed highlights\n01:01 Welcome back Ashley Pack and the origin of Four Point People\n06:19 From teaching and transportation to recruiting bus drivers\n10:47 Making 200 cold calls a day with Aflac during the pandemic\n17:57 Growing up around a homebuilding business and payroll\n21:25 What Four Point People actually does for business owners\n21:55 The real hiring problem most owners don’t see\n27:25 Catholic guilt, reading people, and in-person interviews\n32:03 The questions candidates should always ask employers\n43:21 Why owners can’t expect employees to care like they do\n52:26 How to fire fairly: warnings, documentation, and communication\n1:03:00 Why trades and blue collar businesses need HR help most\n1:14:34 TikTok, BS detectors, and reading personalities\n1:19:36 Affiliate program and where to find Four Point People online\n\nFor more episodes → MMTBP.com \nGuests website → https://fourpointpeople.com/\n\nStudio → https://www.itsyourshow.co/","thumbnail_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/MQ_OhPfdW9BdEjsZHWT49CTxYJ8Q_hM2MA0llbwBouM/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:400/h:400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS9jNjhk/YTVkYzdlYjI3NTkx/MTBjYWZiZjRiMjdh/YzQyZS5qcGc.webp","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300}