{"type":"rich","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Transistor","provider_url":"https://transistor.fm","author_name":"Serious Lady Business ","title":"The Business of Surprise with Lillian Rafson","html":"<iframe width=\"100%\" height=\"180\" frameborder=\"no\" scrolling=\"no\" seamless src=\"https://share.transistor.fm/e/4e0d3aec\"></iframe>","width":"100%","height":180,"duration":2083,"description":"What happens when you quit your job, give up your apartment, and follow a spark of inspiration halfway around the world?In this episode of Serious Lady Business, Leslie Youngblood sits down with Lillian Rafson, Founder and CEO of Pack Up + Go, the surprise travel company she launched at just 23 years old after a chance conversation in a hostel in Latvia. What started as a lightbulb moment became a mission-driven business that has helped thousands of travelers discover overlooked destinations while supporting local communities and small businesses across the United States.Lillian shares the realities of building a company without outside funding, navigating rapid growth and post-pandemic challenges, learning to separate her identity from her business, and why entrepreneurship is often less about having all the answers and more about being willing to start before you feel ready.About Our GuestLillian Rafson, Founder and CEO of Pack Up + GoPack Up + Go WebsiteLillian's Coaching WebsiteConnect with Lillian on LinkedInFollow Pack Up + Go on LinkedIn, Facebook, Instagram, and TikTokKey TakeawaysYour Next Big Idea Can Come From AnywhereBootstrapping Creates Different PrioritiesGrowth Isn't Always LinearYour Business Is Not Your IdentityDon't Let Planning Become Procrastination","thumbnail_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/1m0mNmkKRhS7SIoS31QwDs_gINf63nNYc07JvwxGA6s/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:400/h:400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS9iNjdi/OWU4NzIwZjVmZmY4/MWY0Zjk0N2U3MWM5/NTdhMy5wbmc.webp","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300}