{"type":"rich","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Transistor","provider_url":"https://transistor.fm","author_name":"Serious Lady Business","title":"The Business of Surprise with Lillian Rafson","html":"<iframe width=\"100%\" height=\"180\" frameborder=\"no\" scrolling=\"no\" seamless src=\"https://share.transistor.fm/e/4e0d3aec\"></iframe>","width":"100%","height":180,"duration":2083,"description":"What happens when you quit your job, give up your apartment, and follow a spark of inspiration halfway around the world?\nIn this episode of Serious Lady Business, Leslie Youngblood sits down with Lillian Rafson, Founder and CEO of Pack Up + Go, the surprise travel company she launched at just 23 years old after a chance conversation in a hostel in Latvia. What started as a lightbulb moment became a mission-driven business that has helped thousands of travelers discover overlooked destinations while supporting local communities and small businesses across the United States.\nLillian shares the realities of building a company without outside funding, navigating rapid growth and post-pandemic challenges, learning to separate her identity from her business, and why entrepreneurship is often less about having all the answers and more about being willing to start before you feel ready.\n\nAbout Our Guest\nLillian Rafson, Founder and CEO of Pack Up + Go\nPack Up + Go Website\nLillian's Coaching Website\nConnect with Lillian on LinkedIn\nFollow Pack Up + Go on LinkedIn, Facebook, Instagram, and TikTok\nKey Takeaways\nYour Next Big Idea Can Come From Anywhere\nBootstrapping Creates Different Priorities\nGrowth Isn't Always Linear\nYour Business Is Not Your Identity\nDon't Let Planning Become Procrastination","thumbnail_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/6TAaPF1kcTIdEmMJGvBn5Jj2u4lrZyr-oqrhplHbStc/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:400/h:400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS8yOGMz/NzBiNmRkZDM4ZjIx/NjllYzZkZWYwYjY1/MzM2Mi5wbmc.webp","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300}