{"type":"rich","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Transistor","provider_url":"https://transistor.fm","author_name":"Unrefined Podcast .com","title":"E186 Pagan Panic or Holy Night?","html":"<iframe width=\"100%\" height=\"180\" frameborder=\"no\" scrolling=\"no\" seamless src=\"https://share.transistor.fm/e/4e9336db\"></iframe>","width":"100%","height":180,"duration":2722,"description":"Every December, it feels like the internet dusts off the same “Christmas is pagan” memes and lobs them into everyone’s feeds, and honestly… I’m over it. In this conversation, I sit down with Lindsy and our guest co-navigator Jennifer to ask where these claims actually came from and whether they hold up to real history. We talk about early church evidence for celebrating Jesus’ birth in December, why conception dates mattered in the ancient world, and how sacred time belongs to God—not Saturn, Mithras, or Yuletide spirits. We also unravel Alexander Hislop’s The Two Babylons, Nimrod conspiracies, green man imagery, and the fear that you might be “accidentally” worshiping other gods by putting up a tree. Along the way, we hit on mission, sacred space, and why intent matters more than internet paranoia. If you’ve ever wondered whether you’re allowed to enjoy Christmas without guilt, this one’s for you with Dr. Judd Burton.\nhttps://www.burtonbeyond.net/\nhttps://drjuddburton.com/\nhttps://join.unrefinedpodcast.com\nTimestamps:\n00:03:16 Is Christmas actually pagan?\n00:05:39 Why celebrating Jesus’ birth matters\n00:07:56 Birth vs conception and sacred timing\n00:10:20 Shepherds, winter flocks, and December\n00:12:42 Saturnalia and Sol Invictus explained\n00:15:08 Constantine myths and Jesus image\n00:17:24 Yuletide, grottos, and reclaiming sites\n00:19:20 St Nicholas, Nicaea, and legend\n00:21:45 Enter Alexander Hislop and Two Babylons\n00:23:59 Nimrod, Apkalū, and pareidolia\n00:26:17 Fear, deception, and trusting God vs the devil\n00:28:33 Magi, astrology, and God using pagan culture\n00:31:00 Christmas trees, Asherah poles, and intent\n00:33:08 Law, grace, and going back under Torah\n00:35:31 Demonic counterfeits and mythic archetypes\n00:37:52 Generational attacks, giants, and cosmic war\n00:40:14 Real danger of anti-Christmas teaching\n00:42:35 Judd’s projects, classes, and Christmas studies","thumbnail_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/SEi08kDnmS3ucXi-RfuKquACTpfh-Kjws-EHkJR3Eps/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:400/h:400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS9mYjhk/MGY5YjJhYTVlZGM1/ZDZhOWQ0MzNiMjIx/NWE4Yi5wbmc.webp","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300}