{"type":"rich","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Transistor","provider_url":"https://transistor.fm","author_name":"Divorce Dialogues","title":"You Can Be Right Or You Can Be Married | Rachel Sussman","html":"","width":"100%","height":180,"duration":1981,"description":"What if the biggest mistake in divorce recovery isn't moving too slowly, but rushing straight past the parts that actually need to heal?\nPsychotherapist, relationship expert, and founder of Sussman Counseling Rachel Sussman joins the show to unpack the framework from her book, The Breakup Bible. She breaks recovery into three phases: healing, understanding, and transformation, and explains why skipping straight to the last one usually backfires.\nKatherine and Rachel talk through why breakup grief can look a lot like grieving a death, how anxious and avoidant attachment patterns often show up years before a marriage ends, and why dating too early can undo months of hard work. Listen for a grounded look at what actually helps someone move forward after divorce.\n\nWhat you'll learn:\nWhy breakup grief mirrors the grief of losing someone to death\nHow to build the support system that makes recovery possible\nHow to tell anxious attachment from avoidant attachment in your own patterns\nWhy waiting to date until you've rebuilt your identity leads to better outcomes\nHighlights:\n(00:00) Meet Rachel Sussman\n(02:52) Why recovery works in three distinct phases\n(05:49) Healing from a breakup, like healing a broken bone\n(08:11) Why building a support system comes first\n(13:27) What the Understanding phase actually requires\n(18:09) The difference between anxious and avoidant attachment\n(22:47) The conflict trap\n(24:06) Untangling your identity from the marriage\n(27:08) Why dating should be the last step, not the first\n(31:48) One piece of advice for the earliest, hardest days\nAbout our guest, Rachel Sussman\nWebsite: sussmancounseling.com\nLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rachel-a-sussman-lcsw-48033a5\n\nAbout Divorce Dialogues and Miller Law Group\nKatherine’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kemiller1/ \nMiller Law Group: https://miller-law.com/\nMore on her book “The Emotionally Savvy Divorce” at: https://katherinemiller.com/book/","thumbnail_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/2nw2w9z7N1c6KkSwiQpiK0ES3HLZcKXStZtcdXwiYB0/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:400/h:400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS8zOTJj/MmUxMzUwODUwNDM5/NjI2ZTdlMTM5OTFl/NGUwNy5qcGc.webp","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300}