{"type":"rich","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Transistor","provider_url":"https://transistor.fm","author_name":"Get Me to the Gray","title":"GMG LIVE: Whistleblowers, Abolition, and the Gray Space Between","html":"","width":"100%","height":180,"duration":3491,"description":"Recorded LIVE at Tattered Cover Book Store, Paula Lehman-Ewing speaks with retired NYPD lieutenant, whistleblower, and author Edwin Raymond about the unresolved tension between inside and outside approaches to change in policing.\nEdwin joined the NYPD after experiencing police harassment as a teenager, determined to challenge discriminatory practices from within. He later became the highest-ranking whistleblower in NYPD history and the lead plaintiff in the federal lawsuit Raymond v. City of New York.Together, Paula and Edwin explore the difficult questions that sit between reform and abolition: Can a system built to resist accountability actually change? Is incremental reform progress — or the system absorbing change to survive? Are justice-minded officers a path forward, or a contradiction?\nThe conversation moves through whistleblowing, broken-windows policing, restorative justice, ICE enforcement, leadership, recruitment culture, and the emotional cost of challenging institutions from the inside. This episode doesn’t offer easy answers — it sits in the tension between two worldviews trying to imagine a different future for public safety.\nRecorded live in Denver with audience Q&A.\nTo attend a LIVE recording visit bit.ly/COJAEvents\nLearn more about Edwin at edwinraymond.com\nWatch Crime + Punishment on YouTube or Hulu","thumbnail_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/xDm4WEtaY1kuGg7U1xEmiMi5JNX9SnZOz_I9A43MqwA/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:400/h:400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS9mNzgz/YjQ5MmY4NmU1ODBm/YjhiNGIzZjMyNzY4/MWMxNS5wbmc.webp","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300}