{"type":"rich","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Transistor","provider_url":"https://transistor.fm","author_name":"UX Stories Podcast","title":"How 80% of AI Companies Build Products","html":"<iframe width=\"100%\" height=\"180\" frameborder=\"no\" scrolling=\"no\" seamless src=\"https://share.transistor.fm/e/557b44fb\"></iframe>","width":"100%","height":180,"duration":1541,"description":"In this episode of UX Stories, host Lihong Hicken sits down with Apurva Garware, SVP and Head of Product at Invisible Technologies — the company behind 80% of the world's AI companies. From Microsoft Azure to Amazon to EdTech, Apurva shares how first principles of teaching humans apply directly to training AI models, why hybrid human-AI teams are inevitable, and how vibe coding is transforming the product building process.\n\n🔥 What you'll learn:\n✅ How training AI models mirrors teaching children\n✅ Why product building is 10x faster with vibe coding & prototyping tools\n✅ The future of product teams — convergence of PM, design & engineering\n✅ Hybrid teams: AI agents working alongside humans\n✅ Why listening to real users still beats AI personas\n✅ The \"magic number\" for user research interviews\n\n👤 About the Guest:\nApurva Garware is SVP and Head of Product at Invisible Technologies, where she works with Frontier AI Labs and enterprises to build AI enablement products. Previously, she held product leadership roles at Microsoft, Amazon, Chegg, and Upwork.\n\n⏱️ Timestamps:\n0:00 — 👋 Welcome & Introduction\n1:16 — 🎯 Apurva's Career Journey: Microsoft, Amazon, Chegg, Upwork & Invisible\n3:43 — 🧒 Is Training AI Like Teaching a Child?\n4:11 — 🧠 How Reinforcement Learning Gyms Work\n7:29 — 🛠️ How Has Product Building Changed with AI?\n8:38 — 💡 From Weeks to Hours: The New Speed of Prototyping\n15:41 — 🏗️ The Future of Product Teams: Convergence of Roles\n15:49 — 🔮 Prediction #1: Roles Will Converge but Expertise Stays\n17:55 — 🤖 Prediction #2: Hybrid Human-AI Teams Are Coming\n18:49 — ⚡ Rapid Fire: Always-On Usability Monitor?\n20:25 — 🧪 AI Personas vs. Human Feedback in User Testing\n22:06 — ❤️ Most Fulfilling Part of the Work\n23:41 — 🙏 Closing Thoughts & Key Takeaway\n\n\n📢 Subscribe for more UX Stories!\n\nProductManagement #AI #UXResearch #InvisibleTechnologies #VibeCoding #ProductDesign #AIAgents #HybridTeams #UserTesting #TechPodcast","thumbnail_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/46z12x5df5emufw7YPHxTz2oVjsA0oz8KBtA2-2yYzY/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:400/h:400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS9kNGI1/ZWM0YWViM2ZjY2Vm/NWEyNGUyZjA4ZWFh/YzVmYy5wbmc.webp","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300}