{"type":"rich","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Transistor","provider_url":"https://transistor.fm","author_name":"The Debrief Podcast with Matthew Stephen Brown","title":"Ep. 80 A Real Conversation About Race pt. 1 | The Debrief Podcast with Matt Brown","html":"<iframe width=\"100%\" height=\"180\" frameborder=\"no\" scrolling=\"no\" seamless src=\"https://share.transistor.fm/e/561d7a1e\"></iframe>","width":"100%","height":180,"duration":4686,"description":"Is the church a place where we should talk about race? How do we know where we’ve been too sensitive or not sensitive enough when it comes to our differences? Listen in as Pastor Matt and Sandals Church creative director Dex Alexander begin a conversation about race, ignorance and how to move forward together.","thumbnail_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/py44cQPJTWBxiwJsHJe2C_Iu0nveNRA2PRzTvznoRpo/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:400/h:400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS9iNWFi/Y2M5YWZjOGZiODE2/NzAwNTZhYjNkMDk2/MWQ1OC5wbmc.webp","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300}