{"type":"rich","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Transistor","provider_url":"https://transistor.fm","author_name":"The Reformed Libertarians Podcast","title":"Ep. 17: David VanDrunen’s View Of Civil Government, with Taylor Drummond","html":"<iframe width=\"100%\" height=\"180\" frameborder=\"no\" scrolling=\"no\" seamless src=\"https://share.transistor.fm/e/5a42f310\"></iframe>","width":"100%","height":180,"duration":3024,"description":"An interview with Pastor Taylor Drummond about his article “Fool’s Gold?: A libertarian analysis of VanDrunen’s account of state legitimacy,” which appreciatively, but critically, examines arguments in the book Politics After Christendom by Dr. David VanDrunen. Pastor Drummond introduces himself and recounts how he became a confessional, Calvinistic Baptist, and a libertarian-anarchist. He speaks about how VanDrunen’s biblical arguments for the legitimacy of the state fail his own standard for justifying the state. Drummond also explains how VanDrunen’s theoretical argument is at odds with his own view of law, justice, and rights, and is in tension with many of his economic and theological insights.\nhttps://reformedlibertarians.com/017\nMain Points Of Discussion\n00:00 Introduction\n00:32 Episode description\n01:50 About Pastor Drummond\n06:54 VanDrunen’s brief biblical arguments and Drummond’s response\n17:22 Monopoly, Noahic covenant, and negative natural rights\n24:26 VanDrunen’s view of customary legal order\n27:50 Drummond’s response on law and rights\n34:44 Need for clearly distinguishing just and unjust coercion\n38:56 Protectionism, sin, politicization, and inefficiency\n47:29 Concluding thoughts\n\nAdditional Resources\nArticle discussed: “Fool’s Gold?: A libertarian analysis of VanDrunen’s account of state legitimacy,” by Taylor Drummond: https://libertarianchristians.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/CLR-5-Drummond.pdf\nPolitics After Christendom by David VanDrunen: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0310108845/\nTaylor Drummond\n  congregation: Grace Community Church, Allentown PA https://gracecommunityallentown.org/\n  Politics substack: https://thearchy.substack.com/ \n  Theology site: https://servantofthesovereign.wordpress.com/ \nOther books mentioned:\n  The Road To Serfdom by Friedrich Hayek: https://mises.org/library/book/road-serfdom \n  The Law by Frederic Bastiat: https://mises.org/library/book/law\n  Foundations of Economics: A Christian View by Shawn Ritenour:...","thumbnail_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/_ffQojCKkfVxhZ9aBJTTn0-xS1eU1nXEHMhYA1yDuC0/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:400/h:400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS9zaG93/LzQ4NzE1LzE3MDUz/MzM2MzItYXJ0d29y/ay5qcGc.webp","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300}