{"type":"rich","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Transistor","provider_url":"https://transistor.fm","author_name":"The Reformed Libertarians Podcast","title":"Ep. 17: David VanDrunen’s View Of Civil Government, with Taylor Drummond","html":"","width":"100%","height":180,"duration":3024,"description":"An interview with Pastor Taylor Drummond about his article “Fool’s Gold?: A libertarian analysis of VanDrunen’s account of state legitimacy,” which appreciatively, but critically, examines arguments in the book Politics After Christendom by Dr. David VanDrunen. Pastor Drummond introduces himself and recounts how he became a confessional, Calvinistic Baptist, and a libertarian-anarchist. He speaks about how VanDrunen’s biblical arguments for the legitimacy of the state fail his own standard for justifying the state. Drummond also explains how VanDrunen’s theoretical argument is at odds with his own view of law, justice, and rights, and is in tension with many of his economic and theological insights.https://reformedlibertarians.com/017Main Points Of Discussion00:00 Introduction00:32 Episode description01:50 About Pastor Drummond06:54 VanDrunen’s brief biblical arguments and Drummond’s response17:22 Monopoly, Noahic covenant, and negative natural rights24:26 VanDrunen’s view of customary legal order27:50 Drummond’s response on law and rights34:44 Need for clearly distinguishing just and unjust coercion38:56 Protectionism, sin, politicization, and inefficiency47:29 Concluding thoughtsAdditional ResourcesArticle discussed: “Fool’s Gold?: A libertarian analysis of VanDrunen’s account of state legitimacy,” by Taylor Drummond: https://libertarianchristians.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/CLR-5-Drummond.pdfPolitics After Christendom by David VanDrunen: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0310108845/ Taylor Drummond   congregation: Grace Community Church, Allentown PA https://gracecommunityallentown.org/   Politics substack: https://thearchy.substack.com/   Theology site: https://servantofthesovereign.wordpress.com/ Other books mentioned:  The Road To Serfdom by Friedrich Hayek: https://mises.org/library/book/road-serfdom   The Law by Frederic Bastiat: https://mises.org/library/book/law   Foundations of Economics: A Christian View by Shawn Ritenour:...","thumbnail_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/_ffQojCKkfVxhZ9aBJTTn0-xS1eU1nXEHMhYA1yDuC0/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:400/h:400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS9zaG93/LzQ4NzE1LzE3MDUz/MzM2MzItYXJ0d29y/ay5qcGc.webp","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300}