{"type":"rich","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Transistor","provider_url":"https://transistor.fm","author_name":"Be The Church with Joel Wayne","title":"Leading When You're Not In Charge with Zach Stephens","html":"","width":"100%","height":180,"duration":2037,"description":"Not everyone is called to sit in the lead seat—but every follower of Jesus is called to lead faithfully.\nIn this episode, Joel Wayne sits down with Luke Bilberry and Zach Stephens to explore the unique challenges, opportunities, and blessings of serving in the \"second chair.\" Whether you're an associate pastor, ministry leader, business executive, team member, or volunteer, this conversation offers practical wisdom on supporting a vision, leading with humility, and leveraging your influence for the Kingdom of God.\n\nTogether, they discuss the importance of trust, alignment, communication, calling, and understanding how God has uniquely wired each leader. You'll discover why great leadership is often about serving others well, embracing your role with joy, and helping carry the mission forward—even when you're not the one casting the final vision.\nIf you've ever wrestled with contentment, influence, authority, or leadership responsibility, this episode will encourage you to lead faithfully where God has placed you.\n\nKey Scriptures\nPhilippians 2:3-11\nJesus modeled humility and servant leadership by emptying Himself and taking the form of a servant.\nExodus 17:8-13\nAaron and Hur holding up Moses' arms as a picture of supporting leadership.\nActs 6:1-7\nThe apostles empower others to serve so the mission of God can continue to expand.\nRomans 12:3-8\nDifferent gifts, one body, united in purpose.\n1 Corinthians 12:12-27\nEvery member plays a unique and valuable role in God's mission.\n\nIn This Episode\nWhat it means to serve faithfully in the second chair.\nWhy every organization needs trusted support leaders.\nThe blessing of influence without carrying ultimate responsibility.\nHow healthy leaders create space for people to grow and evolve in their roles.\nThe dangers of moving faster than the vision allows.\nLearning to submit ideas while maintaining conviction.\nThe relationship between trust, humility, and organizational health.\nWhy understanding your God-given wiring matters....","thumbnail_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/wc6qZ_iZFpkYG8SMfTdKN5ijtq7XhznxmHGExBnqUPc/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:400/h:400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS9mOTcz/YjkyZTk1NjlhZGQy/MTRkMmMxMDg0Mzhi/NWE2MS5qcGc.webp","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300}