{"type":"rich","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Transistor","provider_url":"https://transistor.fm","author_name":"Media and the Machine","title":"SPIN’s CEO: AI Can’t Break the Next Nirvana","html":"<iframe width=\"100%\" height=\"180\" frameborder=\"no\" scrolling=\"no\" seamless src=\"https://share.transistor.fm/e/5e927c74\"></iframe>","width":"100%","height":180,"duration":3451,"description":"Jimmy Hutcheson is the CEO of SPIN and a private equity investor hunting for the next great media brand.If you like music and tech, you’re going to love this one.Jimmy bought SPIN from Billboard about six years ago — and since then the company has grown revenue 17XIts TikTok following rivals Rolling Stone.Today SPIN is far more than a magazine. –  It runs major events, licensing deals, brand partnerships, documentaries — and even a record label.SPIN might be as close to an AI-proof media company as any I’ve seen recently.Jimmy shares why he’d love to buy Pitchfork from Condé Nast…We talk about whether SPIN would ever go IPO – no one’s ever asked him in public. He also shares how he would launch a media company today, from scratch. And Jimmy tells some funny anecdotes about what he found when he first entered the storage locker holding SPIN’s entire archive (going back decades)  — including a photo of a famous rock star that had to be touched up because they had a zit.We of course talk about how SPIN is approaching AI — from blocking AI scraping to exploring new licensing deals with AI companies.Please enjoy my conversation with Jimmy Hutcheson.Thanks! Rob","thumbnail_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/HFcKrDy4G3ckU9bjuMpsJ7q5fCZAR2rBgUQcovom8lk/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:400/h:400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS9hMjUw/Mjk1Y2I5Nzg4Mzg3/YzZiMzk2YTQ4MTI3/NGE2ZS5qcGc.webp","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300}