{"type":"rich","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Transistor","provider_url":"https://transistor.fm","author_name":"IOE Insights","title":"How other countries could leave the EU | Research for the Real World","html":"<iframe width=\"100%\" height=\"180\" frameborder=\"no\" scrolling=\"no\" seamless src=\"https://share.transistor.fm/e/61286aaf\"></iframe>","width":"100%","height":180,"duration":2558,"description":"10 years after the Brexit referendum, was Britain’s departure from the European Union inevitable or did it depend on a series of political choices?\nMark Quinn speaks with Dr Roch Dunin-Wąsowicz and Max Josef Migden about their research comparing Britain’s experience with the prospect of Poland leaving the EU. They introduce a framework exploring how national structures, political narratives and the actions of influential politicians can combine to make \"Polexit\" possible.\nWhy would a largely pro-European population continue to elect Eurosceptic leaders? Could Poland leave without holding a referendum?\nWe also hear how the EU has changed since Brexit and why populist politicians may now be more interested in reshaping it than leaving it.\nFull show notes and links: https://www.ucl.ac.uk/ioe/news/2026/sep/how-other-countries-could-leave-eu-research-real-world\nMore Research for the Real World: https://uclioe.info/rftrw\nMore IOE Insights podcasts: https://uclioe.info/podcast\nUCL Institute of Education: https://ucl.ac.uk/ioe\nPhoto: FotoDax / Adobe Stock","thumbnail_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/nQv-JSssmlh4qmZCDE22T7hrCym99YlfEPW21Rf4Qec/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:400/h:400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS81ZGQ0/NTgyNWE2Y2ZmY2Q5/ODkyOTI2NTNlY2Y4/ZGQ5Yi5wbmc.webp","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300}