{"type":"rich","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Transistor","provider_url":"https://transistor.fm","author_name":"House of Folk Art","title":"Episode 49 | From Football to Folk Art","html":"","width":"100%","height":180,"duration":2899,"description":"Matt Ledbetter talks with Julian-Sherrod Summers, also known as Red Sanford, about how their shared background in football quietly ran alongside a growing interest in old objects, self-taught artists, and the stories those pieces carry.\nFrom there, the conversation opens up into picking, collecting, valuing art, and the long road that led both of them into the folk art world.\nThe conversation moves naturally between football culture, folk art discovery, picking, and the shared duality of living in both physical, competitive worlds and thoughtful, creative ones. Along the way, they talk candidly about how folk art is valued, how artists are discovered, the risks of the art world, and why certain work deserves to be preserved before it disappears.\nFrom flea market finds and auction stories to conversations about Black self-taught artists, access, and preservation, this episode moves beyond collecting into questions of visibility, value, and who gets remembered in the art world.\nChapters\n00:00 | From Football to folk art\n03:47 | The folk art table that changed everything\n07:25 | Why folk art has no fixed value\n11:40 | Selling a Basquiat and pushing outside the art world \n18:22 | When art starts to own you\n23:57 | Selling a Monet and trusting experience\n25:58 | Why folk art is not a get rich quick game\n29:40 | Black self-taught artists and preservation\n32:01 | Football toughness and artistic sensitivity\n38:53 | Cultivating personal collections and living with art\n41:19 | Lost houses, lost art, and what can still be saved\nThis conversation moves between football, folk art, and collecting, before turning toward questions of value, access, and preservation, particularly around Black self-taught artists and the environments that shaped their work.\nDo you know a folk artist or have a picking story worth sharing?\nLeave your name and where you’re from and you might hear yourself on a future episode.\nhouseoffolkart@gmail.com\n(919) 410 8002\nFollow @houseoffolkart for more...","thumbnail_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/V9-9EJUZ9R45flfIBnsuQ4AwapFGe_rYKiVr1IMQwbU/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:400/h:400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS9zaG93/LzUxNTk0LzE3MTE3/Mzc2MTktYXJ0d29y/ay5qcGc.webp","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300}