{"type":"rich","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Transistor","provider_url":"https://transistor.fm","author_name":"The Story of Scale","title":"At first we could only do what we could afford. Then we had to decide what was the right thing to do","html":"","width":"100%","height":180,"duration":2205,"description":"Shane McKenzie went from sharing one computer at a folding table in Spartanburg to leading a 109-person, $32M company. He's the first outside guest in Story of Scale history — and for good reason. He's also the COO of Istoria Collective and the author of The Healthy How.\nHarris and Chad sit down with Shane for Part 1 of a four-part series on what actually changes as you scale, what never does, and why the leadership playbook most of us were handed no longer works.\nIn this episode:\n\n The three seasons every scaling business moves through, and why the decisions get harder\nThe three things people actually want at work\nWhy the middle management layer is disappearing\nThe hardest thing Shane learned in 20 years of building a company\nWhy people are the solution, not the problem\nGrab Start With Wow and The Healthy How together at startwithwow.com.\nMore at istoria.com/scale.","thumbnail_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/w6M9Gxtz2kn3SABcMt04e1uk43gkGK7e7yF0rTBBHeI/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:400/h:400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS8xNTlj/MmE0MjhhN2NhMGY2/ZmNlMzgwNzZjNDk5/NjdlMC5wbmc.webp","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300}