{"type":"rich","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Transistor","provider_url":"https://transistor.fm","author_name":"Along The Edge Podcast: Breaking, Defending, and Understanding Agentic AI","title":"Along The Edge e1: Agentic AI Security, Jailbreaks, and Why You Shouldn’t Trust Your Agents","html":"<iframe width=\"100%\" height=\"180\" frameborder=\"no\" scrolling=\"no\" seamless src=\"https://share.transistor.fm/e/69c9c516\"></iframe>","width":"100%","height":180,"duration":3070,"description":"Welcome to Along The Edge, a podcast about AI security and agentic AI.\nIn Episode 1, Andrius Useckas (Co-founder & CTO, ZioSec) sits down with Alex Gatz (Staff Security Architect, ZioSec) to break down the emerging world of agentic AI security: jailbreaks, prompt injection, SDR and SOC agents, data leaks, least privilege, and why “don’t worry, the model will filter it” is a dangerous assumption.\nThey also walk through V-HACK, an intentionally vulnerable agentic lab project that lets security researchers and pentesters safely experiment with agent exploits, tool calling, jailbreaks, and attack paths—helping define what “pen tester 2.0” looks like.\nChapters / In this episode:\n00:00 – Intro: who we are & why a new AI security podcast\n02:00 – What is agentic AI vs a plain LLM?\n03:10 – SDR agents, SOC workflows & new “Layer 8 / Layer 9” problems\n09:00 – Prompt injection 101: direct vs indirect attacks & context windows\n12:00 – Chatbots vs agents and why agent risk is higher\n15:00 – Foundation model trust & the Anthropic horror-story jailbreak demo\n19:30 – Why jailbreaks are (currently) an unsolved problem\n22:30 – Social engineering parallels & detecting AI / agentic attacks\n27:00 – V-HACK: intentionally vulnerable agent lab for pentesters\n32:00 – Securing agents: WAFs, runtime protection, identity & MCP proxies\n36:00 – Scanners, evals vs real pentesting & terrifying token bills\n39:00 – Least privilege, DLP & identity for SDR and payroll-style agents\n44:00 – “Don’t trust, verify”: threat modeling & testing agents early\n46:00 – Future of AI security: consolidation, CNAPs & SOC-as-an-agent\n49:00 – Magic wand: fixing context & memory in agents\n50:30 – Closing thoughts & what’s next\nLinks mentioned:\nZioSec – www.ziosec.com\nV-HACK (GitHub) – https://github.com/ZioSec/VHACK\nAbout the guests:\nAndrius Useckas has 25+ years in security and now focuses on agentic AI security, offensive testing, and red teaming for enterprise AI deployments.\nAlex Gatz is a Staff Security...","thumbnail_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/hm3VE1FY8A5DJb1XIk8dxWWeU2nq1X_bPnPR5rOP9J8/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:400/h:400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS9jMjI2/ODk4N2MzYTU4NWE3/MmFmYmFmOGUzYTEy/MjlhNy5wbmc.webp","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300}