{"type":"rich","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Transistor","provider_url":"https://transistor.fm","author_name":"Old School / New Tech","title":"E08: Software Factories - Lights Out or Lights On?","html":"<iframe width=\"100%\" height=\"180\" frameborder=\"no\" scrolling=\"no\" seamless src=\"https://share.transistor.fm/e/702606d6\"></iframe>","width":"100%","height":180,"duration":1395,"description":"Why Software Factories Still Need Humans in the Loop\n\nRan Aroussi discusses “software factories” as automated systems that manage the full software development and deployment cycle, arguing the industry is moving from a single workstation to virtual, always-on cloud environments with agents running off-machine. Prompted by Dex (HumanLayer) describing a fully automated “lights-out” factory that produced “slop,” and Uncle Bob’s claim he doesn’t read agent-written code when surrounded by extreme constraints, Ran explains why he doesn’t believe in lights-out automation. He outlines Automaze’s internal factory, Cloop: tickets/PRDs are created and grounded in an indexed knowledge graph of the codebase; multiple models generate and critique PRDs; a human approves; agents implement in parallel, run unit/e2e/quality tests, simplify and profile code, then perform code and security review, looping up to five times before escalating to a human. Humans remain essential for alignment, enforcement, and final validation via PR review and temporary deployments, avoiding false positives, runaway costs, and untrustworthy results.\n\n-----\nOld School / New Tech is produced by VarOps.\nSubscribe to the newsletter – the written version of this show, weekly: varops.com\nRead the books – Company-Scale Agentic AI (for operators and the C-suite) and Production-Grade Agentic AI (for engineers): varops.com/books\nWork with us – VarOps installs resident AI inside mid-market companies. It runs where your work already happens, sees the whole operation, and what it learns belongs to you: varops.com/transform","thumbnail_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/13nrINn33mdG7k8LoP1Ez_oYKpPxbcHmR2r_rrXw8jQ/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:400/h:400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS85YTRj/ZGQ0Y2RkZDdmMGY4/NzdjYjgxNjI4OWQ5/YTdkYS5qcGVn.webp","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300}