{"type":"rich","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Transistor","provider_url":"https://transistor.fm","author_name":"Grit","title":"#142 President of DocuSign, Robert Chatwani: Get Uncomfortable","html":"<iframe width=\"100%\" height=\"180\" frameborder=\"no\" scrolling=\"no\" seamless src=\"https://share.transistor.fm/e/70c985ab\"></iframe>","width":"100%","height":180,"duration":4646,"description":"Guest: Robert Chatwani, President and General Manager of Growth at DocuSign\nRobert Chatwani’s first reinvention was in his early 20s, when he left McKinsey & Company to start a people-powered commerce startup called MonkeyBin. And in the ensuing decades, his entrepreneurial energy hasn’t slowed down, with hops to eBay, Spring, Atlassian, and now DocuSign, where he is the President and General Manager of Growth. He cites a “healthy anxiety” that comes from getting too comfortable in any role, where he finds himself solving the same problems over and over again; but when you’re in a little bit over your head, Robert explains, “that’s a good place to be, because that’s where the best learning comes from.”\nIn this episode, Robert and Joubin discuss trusting your intuition, reinventing yourself, personal boards of advisors, people-powered commerce, betting on people, career coaching, taking time for family, being the same person in every room, bone marrow donors, energy takers vs. creators, and leading with empathy.\nIn this episode, we cover:\nNetworking through venture capitalists (02:18)\nLeaving high-profile jobs (04:29)\nHow to know when it’s time to leave (07:55)\n12 years at eBay (11:05)\nThe seeds of doubt (15:10)\nFinding purpose in company-building (17:51)\nRobert’s personal mission statement (21:01)\nGrowing up in Chicago and his parents (24:40)\nLosing a parent (27:16)\nTrue North by Bill George (29:35)\nFinding ways to be human (32:45)\nWhat accomplishment Robert is most proud of (34:35)\nMonkeyBin and meeting eBay (36:08)\nSameer Bhatia’s battle with leukemia (38:30)\nBuilding a global bone marrow campaign (42:38)\n“You can’t control every outcome” (48:07)\nUnexpected side effects (52:56)\nBusiness is a force for good (56:26)\nWorking at Spring, and then Atlassian (01:00:01)\nSelf-doubt and leaving Atlassian (01:06:29)\nMaking tough calls with IQ & EQ (01:10:24)\nWho DocuSign is hiring, and what “grit” means to Robert (01:13:48)\nLinks:\nConnect with RobertLinkedIn\nConnect with...","thumbnail_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/jCea5f44KBONhOsyLyht9nXUrj2YBNfA6fc-kgyfWTM/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:400/h:400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS9zaG93/Lzk3NzAvMTY2Nzg2/MjQyOC1hcnR3b3Jr/LmpwZw.webp","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300}