{"type":"rich","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Transistor","provider_url":"https://transistor.fm","author_name":"Future Around & Find Out","title":"What should kids study? How should AI help? Khan Academy's learning chief on productive struggle","html":"<iframe width=\"100%\" height=\"180\" frameborder=\"no\" scrolling=\"no\" seamless src=\"https://share.transistor.fm/e/722d3bc7\"></iframe>","width":"100%","height":180,"duration":2818,"description":"So what the heck should kids be studying today!?That's my opening question to Khan Academy's Chief Learning Officer, Kristen DiCerbo, a learning and AI expert who is back for her second appearance on the show. We discuss:Kristen's advice for what to study today: fundamentals, AI literacy, and critical thinkingHow helpful should AI be? Why the productive struggle is critical to learning, but also why we shouldn't \"fetishize\" struggleWhen should AI be Socratic — \"and why do you think that?\" — and when should it just give you the answer?The \"5% problem\" — why edtech that's proven to work still barely gets usedHow Khan Academy overhauled its classroom platform and evolved Khanmigo from a standalone chatbot into something woven into the whole learning experiencePersonalization that actually works How Khan Academy uses LLMs as judges to evaluate 20,000 student interactions a dayThe scenario planning report that imagines deepfakes of school principals and AI going underground in schoolsWhat parents should be asking their kids' schools about AI right nowWhat it looks like when a school implements AI well — and what it looks like when they don'tChapters:Support Future Around & Find OutFollow Dan on LinkedInGet the free Future Around & Find Out newsletterBecome a paid subscriber and help future proof the podcast!Sponsor the show? Are you looking to reach an audience of senior technologists and decision-makers? Email me: dan@futurearound.com---Music by Jonathan Zalben","thumbnail_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/HUxsFUd2l2IpBZewHzlZlthVWOmLB5qSDYnIlkRo0LE/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:400/h:400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS82YTcx/YWIxYzkxYjgwNWI4/MTc5NGYyNjliZjU5/NzQ4MC5qcGc.webp","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300}