{"type":"rich","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Transistor","provider_url":"https://transistor.fm","author_name":"The Vernon Richard Show","title":"Creating an Environment for Testers to Thrive","html":"","width":"100%","height":180,"duration":3167,"description":"The conversation revolves around the challenges faced by testers and the lack of understanding and support they receive from leadership. The hosts discuss the misconception of the value of testers and the need for leaders to create an environment where testers can thrive. They highlight the importance of addressing the frustrations and unhappiness of testers and the need for leaders to take responsibility for creating a supportive and nurturing culture.\nThe conversation also touches on the changing expectations of developers compared to testers and the need for leaders to have a better understanding of the role and value of testers. The conversation explores the disconnect between the expectations and perspectives of testing and quality engineers. It highlights the need for leaders to take responsibility for creating a supportive environment and culture. The role of tools and marketing in shaping these expectations is also discussed.\nThe conversation concludes with the importance of clear communication, understanding the needs of the team, and nurturing the growth of testers and quality engineers.\n#podcast #softwaretesting #software #softwaredevelopment \nLinks to stuff we mentioned during the pod:\n11:38 - Challenge Networks. Listen to Adam Grant explain the concept of a Challenge Network on the DOAC podcast.\n26:30 - Jerry Weinberg's 2nd Law of Consulting from his book The Secrets of Consulting\"No matter how it looks at first, it's always a people problem.\"\nFind more of Jerry's quotes on this page\n28:40 - Vern talking about his talk in episode 6 \"How No-Code Test Tools, Technical Leadership & Glue Work Impact Software Quality\"Tanya's Glue Work presentation which you can read or watch\n\"What Is Quiet Quitting?\" a BBC News article describing the phenomenon\nVernon's Agile Yorkshire presentation where he describes the link between those concepts\n29:19 - Martin HynieMartin describing the wider impact of his talk\nMartin's LinkedIn\n30:59 - Maaret Pyhäjärvi & Anna...","thumbnail_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/UFGkkh_jsZubLbpE6txGLPU3-7iIlh6gJ0JsseFDEm0/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:400/h:400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS9iM2Zk/NGQ3NDk4NmVkNjA5/OGJmMzA0ODQxMWIy/N2ExOS5wbmc.webp","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300}