{"type":"rich","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Transistor","provider_url":"https://transistor.fm","author_name":"Loud, Bold, Humble","title":"Traplines, Trade & the Power of a Handshake","html":"<iframe width=\"100%\" height=\"180\" frameborder=\"no\" scrolling=\"no\" seamless src=\"https://share.transistor.fm/e/74e6dc9a\"></iframe>","width":"100%","height":180,"duration":2767,"description":"In this episode, Ron and Shaun sit down with Frank McKenna—the former New Brunswick premier, ambassador, and master relationship-builder. Frank shares how a few points scribbled on a napkin helped Ron find his confidence, why he thinks of connections as “traplines,” and how a shared love of baseball—and a remarkable family connection—helped turn tense moments in Washington into lasting relationships.\n\nFrom the Meech Lake Accord and lessons in leadership to Canada’s search for swagger, Frank reflects on the choices he’d make differently, the advice he’d give young people, and why he believes it’s time to tear down interprovincial trade barriers. A conversation about friendship, boldness, and what it takes to build a stronger Canada.\n\nConnect with Loud, Bold, Humble\n🎥 Watch the full episodes on YouTube: @LoudBoldHumblePod\n📸 Follow Loud, Bold, Humble\n\nInstagram: @loudboldhumblepod\nFacebook: Loud, Bold, Humble\nConnect with Ron on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ron-lovett/\nConnect with Shaun on Instagram: @shaunmajumder\nConnect with the Podcast: loudboldhumble@podstarter.io\nCHAPTERS\n00:00 — The Lawyer Joke\n00:21 — Frank McKenna Joins the Show\n00:58 — Ron’s Frank McKenna Story\n03:44 — Loud, Bold, and Humble\n04:07 — Atlantic Canada Needs Its Swagger\n07:30 — Frank’s “Traplines” for Building Relationships\n10:15 — Family Values and Diplomacy\n15:10 — Finding Common Ground in Washington\n19:23 — Being Helpful—and Knowing Your Limits\n23:06 — Risk, Mark Carney, and Changing Your Mind\n25:39 — The Decision to Run for Premier\n28:00 — Frank’s Meech Lake Regret\n29:47 — Canada’s Moment of Pride\n36:07 — Politics and the Noise of Social Media\n38:49 — Frank’s Advice to Young People\n42:18 — Tear Down Interprovincial Trade Barriers\n44:36 — Get Involved and Build a Stronger Canada","thumbnail_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/YsO2e4_2kU8vz8EvKQ432BwqZ075IxJ0z8orx87oIN0/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:400/h:400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS85ZjIz/M2VlZGIxNjFjMWRk/ZjA0NjJlZjZkNzcy/MWI2NS5qcGc.webp","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300}