{"type":"rich","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Transistor","provider_url":"https://transistor.fm","author_name":"So Much To Say: A Legal Podcast For People","title":"What If You Don’t Know the Whole Story? White Collar Defense, Confirmation Bias, and the Courage to Listen with Aaron Clark ","html":"","width":"100%","height":180,"duration":2114,"description":"\"Can you leave some space for the possibility that you don't know everything, that there could be another side to it?\" - Aaron Clark\nMost of us think we know exactly what a \"white collar criminal\" looks like. Aaron Clark wants us to question that assumption.\nIn this episode of So Much To Say: A Legal Podcast For People, Megan Senese and Jennifer Ramsey are joined by Aaron Clark, white collar defense attorney and former federal prosecutor, for a conversation about justice, confirmation bias, and what it's like to stand beside people during the hardest moments of their lives.\nAaron shares why he left the U.S. Attorney's Office for private practice, what surprised him most about defending people accused of federal crimes, and why listening is often the most powerful skill a lawyer can have.\nAlong the way, the conversation explores reputation, second chances, business development, and why doing the brave thing every day often starts with something much smaller than you think.\nWhether you're a lawyer, legal marketer, or simply someone who wants to think more critically before rushing to judgment, this episode offers a thoughtful reminder that every story has more than one side.\nYou'll hear about:Why Aaron transitioned from federal prosecutor to white collar defense attorneyThe misconceptions people have about white collar crimeHow confirmation bias shapes investigations and everyday lifeWhy listening is one of the most valuable skills any lawyer can developThe human cost of criminal accusations, even before a verdict is reachedWhat it's like to help clients navigate the most difficult moments of their livesBuilding a book of business after leaving government practiceWhy relationships, not sales tactics, drive long-term business developmentThe courage it takes to do something that scares you every dayHow baking cookies became one of Aaron's favorite ways to connect with clients\nAbout Aaron Clark: \nAaron Clark is a white collar criminal defense attorney and former...","thumbnail_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/xX4mv8ABkxdZYlNqyYMtgty7eVFkp64CDgWzGR1qEOg/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:400/h:400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS85MWU1/ODk3ZDY4NjYwY2Fh/OTE1NzYyZjdlMThl/YzFhNy5qcGVn.webp","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300}