{"type":"rich","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Transistor","provider_url":"https://transistor.fm","author_name":"Small Efforts - with Sean Sun and Andrew Askins","title":"How do you know when to quit?","html":"","width":"100%","height":180,"duration":3994,"description":"In this episode, Andrew talks about his upcoming trip to Mexico City, which started as a potential plan to live there but has evolved into a working vacation. Sean talks about recent challenges in his agency, including team members getting sick after conferences and some project misfires with smaller clients.\nAndrew then gives an update on the lukewarm progress he's seeing with ChartJuice (complete with raw metrics) and again ponders a freemium pivot. He's grappling with the question - how do you know when to give up on a SaaS product?\nThey wrap up by debating whether shelling out big bucks for 15 minutes with a big shot is worth it or just a fancy way to burn cash.\nLinks:\nAndrew’s Twitter: @AndrewAskins\nAndrew's website: https://www.andrewaskins.com/\nChartJuice: https://www.chartjuice.com/\nSean’s Twitter: @seanqsun\nMiscreants: http://miscreants.com/\nStackWise: Coming soon...\nFigTree: Coming soon...\nFor more information about the podcast, check out https://www.smalleffortspod.com/.\nTranscript:\n00:00:01.34\nSean\nbut what up what up\n\n00:00:02.64\nAndrew\nNot much, just ah trying to get a full week of work done for the first time in what feels like weeks um in part because I am headed to Mexico City next week.\n\n00:00:09.84\nSean\nyeah well\n\n00:00:14.45\nAndrew\num And I'll be working from there, but the first week I'm only going to have like two days because um Maddie gets in like midday Thursday.\n\n00:00:14.79\nSean\nyeah\n\n00:00:24.72\nAndrew\nI'm traveling Monday. um We've got plans Friday um and Thursday afternoon. So it's like, yeah, I'm i'm not getting shit done.\n\n00:00:35.69\nSean\nare you Are you going, like, is there a reason you're going or are you just going to hang out because you like.\n\n00:00:35.75\nAndrew\nSo.\n\n00:00:41.99\nAndrew\num It started with like Maddie and I had kind of talked about like this pipe dream of maybe living in Mexico City one day.\n\n00:00:49.90\nSean\nOh.\n\n00:00:50.25\nAndrew\num Part of me really wants to live in a Spanish speaking country at some point...","thumbnail_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/PgRb7nkVloWStxsA-Wu9jkGRJHzVzKvZN5NP2-jtBqk/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:400/h:400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS9zaG93/LzIwNTI3LzE2MjMx/ODE4NDYtYXJ0d29y/ay5qcGc.webp","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300}