{"type":"rich","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Transistor","provider_url":"https://transistor.fm","author_name":"Future of Life Institute Podcast","title":"Could Powerful AI Break Our Fragile World? (with Michael Nielsen)","html":"<iframe width=\"100%\" height=\"180\" frameborder=\"no\" scrolling=\"no\" seamless src=\"https://share.transistor.fm/e/82e68aaf\"></iframe>","width":"100%","height":180,"duration":3689,"description":"On this episode, Michael Nielsen joins me to discuss how humanity's growing understanding of nature poses dual-use challenges, whether existing institutions and governance frameworks can adapt to handle advanced AI safely, and how we might recognize signs of dangerous AI. We explore the distinction between AI as agents and tools, how power is latent in the world, implications of widespread powerful hardware, and finally touch upon the philosophical perspectives of deep atheism and optimistic cosmism.\n\nTimestamps:  \n\n00:00:00 Preview and intro \n\n00:01:05 Understanding is dual-use  \n\n00:05:17 Can we handle AI like other tech?  \n\n00:12:08 Can institutions adapt to AI?  \n\n00:16:50 Recognizing signs of dangerous AI \n\n00:22:45 Agents versus tools \n\n00:25:43 Power is latent in the world \n\n00:35:45 Widespread powerful hardware \n\n00:42:09 Governance mechanisms for AI \n\n00:53:55 Deep atheism and optimistic cosmism","thumbnail_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/fFhIC-s2qSlHXzmJI7qMGts2WuLwImi4tWmRLH9EdPg/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:400/h:400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS81MmU5/MDZjZGQ5OTI0MDc5/YTk2ZTAxYTgwYTNk/M2VlOC5qcGc.webp","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300}