{"type":"rich","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Transistor","provider_url":"https://transistor.fm","author_name":"Indie Hackers","title":"#134 – Code vs No-Code with Ben Tossell of Makerpad and Sahil Lavingia of Gumroad","html":"<iframe width=\"100%\" height=\"180\" frameborder=\"no\" scrolling=\"no\" seamless src=\"https://share.transistor.fm/e/857e4d18\"></iframe>","width":"100%","height":180,"duration":3921,"description":"The no-code movement is picking up steam, with more people than ever building apps and businesses without knowing how to code themselves. Ben Tossell (@bentossell), the creator of Makerpad, is betting his business that no-code is the future of work. However, Sahil Lavingia (@shl), the founder of Gumroad, isn't so sure that code. In this episode, I hosted a lively discussion between these two thoughtful bootstrappers about code vs no-code. Which approach should a new indie hacker should take? What gaps in the market are opening up due to the changes in tooling landscape? And what does the future hold?Transcript, speaker information, and more: https://www.indiehackers.com/podcast/134-ben-tossell-and-sahil-lavingia-on-code-vs-no-code","thumbnail_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/hdohCXPH-scU5wt_XTGUZNcvyzw90CqYMi1KMtSSm6E/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:400/h:400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS9zaG93/LzEwOTg1LzE1OTAy/NTc1OTMtYXJ0d29y/ay5qcGc.webp","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300}