{"type":"rich","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Transistor","provider_url":"https://transistor.fm","author_name":"Marvel Movie Minute","title":"CATWS Minutes 116-120: … to the End of the Line","html":"","width":"100%","height":180,"duration":2311,"description":"Robert Redford watches twenty years of work break its own back in the Potomac and says \"what a waste,\" which sets the hosts arguing about whether Alexander Pierce is a true believer or just a very well-tailored mustache-twirler. Then Nick Fury shoots him — was Pierce actually a threat in that moment, or did Fury just want him off the board before a trial aired everything Fury ever did? — and Natasha pulls off the biggest sacrifice play of her arc in roughly three seconds of screen time, which the movie promptly edits past. Elsewhere, Falcon and Rumlow beat each other around an office, and the fight is won decisively by a building.\nThe last two minutes are the ones that hurt. Cap drops the shield, refuses the fight, and gets \"you're my mission\" screamed into his face — which detours the conversation into the paperclip maximizer problem and a true story about an AI that fixed a cluttered inbox by deleting the inbox. Matthew asks the harder question: when Cap gambles he can talk Bucky down, he isn't gambling with his own life. He's gambling with everyone's. Then the floor gives out. Picture wrap on Robert Redford, and on Frank Grillo.\nLinks & References\nThe film and its neighbors\nCaptain America: The Winter Soldier\nCaptain America: The First Avenger — the Red Skull comparison, and the original fall\nAvengers: Age of Ultron — Strucker, and the fear that builds a robot\nEverything else the hosts dragged in\nDr. No — the Bond monologue Pierce never gets to finish\nSpeed — \"Yeah, but I'm taller\"\nThe Wolverine — the CGI body nobody wanted to give Redford\nZombieland — double tap\nThe Empire Strikes Back — one falls, one hangs on\nWidow's Bay — where Pete found his favorite trolley problem answer\nConcepts\nInstrumental convergence (the paperclip maximizer)\nThe trolley problem\nCharacters\nBlack Widow\nCrossbones\nMore from the hosts\nMarvel Movie Minute — and MarvelMovieMinute.com to support the show and get episodes ad-free, a week early\nSuperhero Ethics and The Ethical Panda with...","thumbnail_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/JlOjETb_he-Cl9RIo-EmPIK5n5bllZ_Q1aRAfBGlSIE/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:400/h:400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS9iMzBi/NWYzMjA0MzBiNTQy/ODhhODNmNGEzNjVj/OTFiYi5qcGc.webp","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300}