{"type":"rich","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Transistor","provider_url":"https://transistor.fm","author_name":"The Healthy Project Podcast","title":"When “Equity” Becomes “Fairness”: Dr. Philip Alberti on Trust, Language, and Community Power","html":"","width":"100%","height":180,"duration":2354,"description":"Dr. Philip Alberti joins Corey Dion Lewis to unpack what organizations risk when they remove words like equity and justice overnight without community input. The conversation focuses on trust, decision-making speed, and the difference between changing language and changing relationships.You will hear:Why fast brand shifts can damage credibilityWhat authentic community engagement requiresHow to talk about equity for all communities without creating a zero-sum storyWhat leaders can protect when the environment turns hostileA practical path to rebuilding trust through process, not slogansThis episode is for health equity leaders, communicators, and community partners who want strategy that keeps values and trust intact.Show Notes\n 0:00 – The post that sparked the conversation and the trust problem\n 3:10 – The pressure behind rapid language changes\n 5:29 – Why speed sent the wrong signal\n 8:18 – Who exited the work and what that reveals\n 9:09 – Why equity messaging became more contested in 2025\n 11:25 – Equity for all communities and why that framing matters\n 13:10 – The myth that equity creates winners and losers\n 16:30 – The burden of bridge-building and a fresh way to share it\n 18:09 – What should stay non-negotiable in public messaging\n 19:00 – Core principles for real community engagement\n 22:01 – How to begin partnerships by listening first\n 24:43 – The internal systems that make engagement real\n 27:57 – Public opinion signals that point to shared ground\n 31:49 – Example of cross-community relationship building\n 32:14 – Health justice as a practice that treats process as the outcomeKey Resources MentionedAAMC Center for Health Justice \r\nAAMC Principles of Trustworthiness Toolkit \r\nAAMC CHARGE \r\n“Health Equity Benefits All Communities” \r\nNational Academies engagement model \r\nDr. Sarah Gollust’s research \r\nThe Vital Conditions for Health and Well-being\nGuest Bio\n Dr. Philip Alberti is the founding director of the AAMC Center for Health Justice. He focuses...","thumbnail_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/MSRYwgzVwmOkZXeinjXJXt6vM1REXDF2oD3ZSMgwLMU/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:400/h:400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS9lY2Zl/MzVlNDRkOWQ4MDEz/ZTNkOTY2MzMyNzYx/M2I0MC5wbmc.webp","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300}