{"type":"rich","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Transistor","provider_url":"https://transistor.fm","author_name":"Secure Talk Podcast","title":"An AI Security Maturity Model for CISOs, with Chris Cochran (SANS)","html":"<iframe width=\"100%\" height=\"180\" frameborder=\"no\" scrolling=\"no\" seamless src=\"https://share.transistor.fm/e/951e8d86\"></iframe>","width":"100%","height":180,"duration":2514,"description":"Half the room at Chris Cochran's leadership dinners still calls themselves AI skeptics. He argues they can't afford to be — because the adversary already isn't.\nChapters: 00:00 — Intro02:49 — NSA/threat intel → AI security, storytelling09:55 — Why leaders feel stuck / no roadmap14:41 — Three pillars (Protect/Utilize/Govern)17:00 — Governance as the real foundation / shadow AI21:37 — Evidence-based scoring vs. pass/fail26:27 — EU AI Act28:44 — Fable/Mythos, Project Glasswing access controls33:18 — Token subsidies, self-hosted models37:52 — Data poisoning & context poisoning40:12 — Iron Man suit framing42:38 — Close: what's next","thumbnail_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/FI5U-V5f7xdITFyeJIbD7DHq2VtWIj7V7SxzbEqbbTM/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:400/h:400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS81NzRj/MTkwYWEwN2IzMjIw/ZjRhZTE0MGJiYjhi/N2YxMS5qcGc.webp","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300}