{"type":"rich","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Transistor","provider_url":"https://transistor.fm","author_name":"Leadership Conversations with Jonno White Podcast","title":"EP239: Humility, Strategy & Global Impact—Olli-Pekka Heinonen on Leading Through Listening & Vision","html":"<iframe width=\"100%\" height=\"180\" frameborder=\"no\" scrolling=\"no\" seamless src=\"https://share.transistor.fm/e/a0dd9111\"></iframe>","width":"100%","height":180,"duration":3221,"description":"In this episode of Leadership Conversations, Jonno White sits down with Olli-Pekka Heinonen, Director General of the International Baccalaureate (IB), to explore what it takes to lead a truly global education organization serving over two million students across 160 countries.Olli-Pekka reflects on his journey from a rural Finnish village to international leadership—sharing powerful lessons shaped by music, complexity thinking, and servant-hearted leadership. With deep humility, he unpacks the importance of curiosity, collaboration, and listening in today’s complex world.He also dives into: 🔹 Why leadership starts with unknowing, not knowing🔹 The power of holding space instead of giving orders🔹 How orchestras taught him to understand non-verbal leadership and intelligence🔹 Why strategy and change must be co-created—not dictated🔹 How to shift from hierarchy to trust and psychological safetyThis conversation is a masterclass in leading with vision, humility, and systems-thinking—especially relevant for leaders navigating change, culture, and global complexity.Tune in now to hear Olli-Pekka Heinonen’s incredible leadership insights and timeless wisdom.","thumbnail_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/s0z5UjlWVoTSd4tnSpilN19JgrnPSs2AZ3MsUNnWkes/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:400/h:400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS80YTQ3/ZDRmY2Y5MTI1ZDdj/ZjUyN2Y5MDljNjQ2/MWYxMy5wbmc.webp","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300}