{"type":"rich","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Transistor","provider_url":"https://transistor.fm","author_name":"The Long Strange Trip Podcast","title":"Episode 29: The Transformation Economy: Why Experience Is No Longer Enough with Joe Pine","html":"<iframe width=\"100%\" height=\"180\" frameborder=\"no\" scrolling=\"no\" seamless src=\"https://share.transistor.fm/e/a154253c\"></iframe>","width":"100%","height":180,"duration":1621,"description":"What happens when experiences aren't enough anymore?\nIn this episode Josh sat down with Joe Pine, co-author of The Experience Economy and author of The Transformation Economy, about the next step in how we create value: helping people transform. They dig into why transformation is really about identity change, why retirement can be one of the biggest transformations of our lives, and how trauma can force us into the messy middle of becoming someone new. Josh and Joe also explore why wealth managers often focus on accumulating money instead of helping people use their wealth to create better lives and meaningful legacies. From retirement and reinvention to health, resilience, and personal growth, this conversation asks a bigger question: who are you becoming, and what kind of life are you trying to create?","thumbnail_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/TKx00bPj7ftjRfLhmW20RsYviC2Xe6zSqWM0bmHRHgQ/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:400/h:400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS8yZGU1/MzliOWNlNTQ5MjZm/ZDQ2YjZmOTU5NGI1/MGViYS5wbmc.webp","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300}