{"type":"rich","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Transistor","provider_url":"https://transistor.fm","author_name":"Cybersecurity Awesomeness Podcast","title":"Cybersecurity Awesomeness Podcast - Episode 182","html":"<iframe width=\"100%\" height=\"180\" frameborder=\"no\" scrolling=\"no\" seamless src=\"https://share.transistor.fm/e/a620c8ad\"></iframe>","width":"100%","height":180,"duration":1116,"description":"In this episode of the Cybersecurity Awesomeness Podcast, host Chris Steffen welcomes his fellow Cloud Security Alliance Zero Trust Working Group co-chairs and Numberline Security co-founders, Jason Garbis and Jerry Chapman, for a candid look at what is working—and what is failing—in enterprise security.\nThe trio examines how rapid business adoption of agentic AI and low-code platforms is outpacing security controls, exposing decades of accumulated \"security debt\" across unsegmented networks and unclassified data repositories. They highlight a growing disconnect at the executive level: as the modern CISO role shifts away from deep technical roots, organizations risk neglecting basic cyber hygiene while struggling to govern exploding non-human identity (NHI) sprawl. Ultimately, Garbis and Chapman emphasize that true Zero Trust maturity requires ditching purely technology-driven checklists in favor of prioritized, business-aligned roadmaps anchored in foundational blocking and tackling—specifically data inventory, classification, and identity governance.","thumbnail_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/4gGeNyK3O0BuHdtjNLQjIlIFvrfsTCQ8uimtpAMCMc0/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:400/h:400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS9hMGEz/NTgzZDkwNTQ5Yjdh/NWQyMWRjZTU2MjVm/OGJiOS5wbmc.webp","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300}