{"type":"rich","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Transistor","provider_url":"https://transistor.fm","author_name":"Grit","title":"#161 Founder & EVP of Oracle NetSuite, Evan Goldberg: Endless Possibilities","html":"<iframe width=\"100%\" height=\"180\" frameborder=\"no\" scrolling=\"no\" seamless src=\"https://share.transistor.fm/e/a72ed680\"></iframe>","width":"100%","height":180,"duration":3945,"description":"Guest: Evan Goldberg, founder and EVP of Oracle Netsuite\nIn the late 1980s and early 1990s, Evan Goldberg working at Oracle, helping to bring its database software to the Mac. He left in 1995 because “I always wanted to do my own thing” and — with Larry Ellison’s support — launched his first startup, Embed. When it failed, he told Larry that he wanted another bite of the apple. “It’s the most exciting, it’s the most satisfying,” Evan said of startups. “It’s the highest risk, but ... even though I did just get married and we were going to have a kid, I still had this real appetite for risk.” The gamble paid off: In 2016, Oracle bought Netsuite for $9.3 billion, and he’s been back “home” ever since.\nIn this episode, Evan and Joubin discuss overestimating and underestimating, rose-colored glasses, collaborative partnerships, Marc Benioff, Larry Ellison’s superpowers, AI skepticism, Rise of the Resistance, energy vs. focus, supportive partners, Zach Nelson and Jim McGeever, and building the cloud.\nIn this episode, we cover:\nEighteen years to $9.3 billion (00:47)\nStartups and failure (03:36)\nCEO vs. CTO vs. technical founder (06:38)\nGrowing up and moving to California (10:08)\nEight years at Oracle (12:30)\nIntroversion (16:12)\nAI is the new internet (17:38)\nThe incumbents’ advantage in AI (23:30)\nInspiration to start something new (25:30)\nLeaving Oracle in 1995 & starting Embed (28:17)\nWhen to cut and run (32:16)\nEvan’s wife, Cindy (36:05)\nStarting NetSuite (40:18)\nGoing public and the stock rollercoaster (43:46)\nOneWorld and fighter jets (47:17)\nOracle’s acquisition of NetSuite (50:48)\nCo-founder and family cohesion (56:58)\nDo-overs (59:25)\nWhat would Evan do if not Netsuite? (01:02:29)\nWho Netsuite is hiring and what “grit” means to him (01:03:41)\nLinks:\nConnect with EvanLinkedIn\nConnect with JoubinTwitter\nLinkedIn\nEmail: grit@kleinerperkins.com \nLearn more about Kleiner Perkins\nThis episode was edited by Eric Johnson from LightningPod.fm","thumbnail_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/jCea5f44KBONhOsyLyht9nXUrj2YBNfA6fc-kgyfWTM/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:400/h:400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS9zaG93/Lzk3NzAvMTY2Nzg2/MjQyOC1hcnR3b3Jr/LmpwZw.webp","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300}