{"type":"rich","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Transistor","provider_url":"https://transistor.fm","author_name":"The BDBF Podcast: News and Insights for the Employment Law Community","title":"Osipov in the firing line | Rice v Wicked Vision & The Whistleblowing Loophole","html":"<iframe width=\"100%\" height=\"180\" frameborder=\"no\" scrolling=\"no\" seamless src=\"https://share.transistor.fm/e/a760c037\"></iframe>","width":"100%","height":180,"duration":2221,"description":"How long can whistleblowers continue to claim dismissal as a \"detriment\" against an individual colleague?Whistleblowing law in the UK is at a pivotal crossroads. In May this year, the Supreme Court will hear the appeal in Rice v Wicked Vision, in which the future of Timis v Osipov is in the firing line.  In this episode of the BDBF Podcast, Amanda Steadman is joined by Bruce Carr KC and Managing Partner Gareth Brahams who both acted for Mr Osipov, to dive into what the appeal in Rice v Wicked Vision means for personal liability in the workplace.Together, they unpick the \"detriment of dismissal\" loophole, tracking the legacy of Timis v Osipov and examining the contentious boundary between an \"instruction to dismiss\" and the \"act of dismissal.\" Listeners will also gain insights into:How the Timis v Osipov precedent continues to influence detriment claims.The statutory tension between Section 47B detriment and Part X unfair dismissal.Balancing the strict wording of the law with the need to protect whistleblowers.What the Rice decision means for the future of high-value whistleblowing claims.Speculation on a Supreme Court appeal and the long-term implications for employment law.Drawing on their extensive experience, this episode offers essential strategic insights for employment lawyers and HR leaders navigating these shifting legal waters.Cases discussed:Timis & Anor v Osipov & Anor [2018] EWCA Civ 2321: https://caselaw.nationalarchives.gov.uk/ewca/civ/2018/2321Rice v Wicked Vision Ltd [2025] EWCA Civ 1466: https://caselaw.nationalarchives.gov.uk/ewca/civ/2025/1466BDBF’s briefing on Wicked Vision can be accessed here: https://www.bdbf.co.uk/employers-continue-to-be-vicariously-liable-for-detriment-of-dismissal-claims-brought-by-employee-whistleblowers-for-now-at-least/Disclaimer: Views of external guest speakers do not represent those of BDBF.Contact BDBFThank you for tuning in to The BDBF Podcast: News and Insights for the Employment Law Community, where we dive...","thumbnail_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/UWGOydA98QbHxnUrPoyFf0reyeCG4EcwRPtsKMMjzqg/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:400/h:400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS9hZTEy/YjYzMTA1ZDI1YTk1/ZDAxMGViMzZkODQz/ZDFiNi5qcGVn.webp","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300}