{"type":"rich","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Transistor","provider_url":"https://transistor.fm","author_name":"Carrier 2.0","title":"Who Governs The Agents?","html":"","width":"100%","height":180,"duration":467,"description":"As agentic AI moves from experimentation to deployment, the conversation is shifting beyond intelligence to something even more fundamental: governance.\nIn this episode of Carrier 2.0, Steve Saunders explores what happens when millions of autonomous AI agents begin interacting across networks, applications, and critical infrastructure. While much of the industry is focused on building increasingly capable AI systems, the bigger challenge may be coordinating them safely, securely, and at scale.\n\nDrawing on insights from telecom and technology leaders, the episode examines the rise of non-human identities, machine-to-machine communication, and the operational complexity created when autonomous systems pursue competing objectives. It argues that telecom's decades of expertise in orchestration, policy, and distributed network control position the industry at the heart of the AI economy's next evolution.\nUltimately, the question is no longer whether AI agents can make decisions. It is who governs those decisions, where the enforcement layer resides, and how operational sovereignty will shape the networks of the future.\nKey Talking Points:\n\nFrom Intelligence to Coordination (00:00)\nWhy the biggest challenge in the age of agentic AI is no longer intelligence, but coordinating autonomous systems at scale.\nThe Rise of Non-Human Identities (00:45)\nHow every employee, application, and workflow could soon generate dozens of AI agents operating independently.\nThe Governance Challenge (01:40)\nWhy managing interactions between AI agents may become more important than building the agents themselves.\nCompeting Objectives at Machine Speed (02:30)\nHow autonomous systems optimising for different goals introduce entirely new forms of operational complexity.\nThe Need for AI Supervision (03:45)\nWhy agent ecosystems will require supervisory layers capable of maintaining visibility and harmony across distributed environments.\nTelecom's Hidden Advantage (04:45)\nHow decades of experience...","thumbnail_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/2XrqCxof4jj7dZZ0ry0NZk8SuplZwQK_hNRJRua9sAE/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:400/h:400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS85NDMy/NmEzYTZkMzUwMzcx/ZWQyZTljMzY1MjYw/MjM2ZS5qcGc.webp","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300}