{"type":"rich","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Transistor","provider_url":"https://transistor.fm","author_name":"Grit","title":"#174 CEO & Co-Founder Ginkgo Bioworks, Jason Kelly: Life Finds a Way","html":"<iframe width=\"100%\" height=\"180\" frameborder=\"no\" scrolling=\"no\" seamless src=\"https://share.transistor.fm/e/a97507cd\"></iframe>","width":"100%","height":180,"duration":3582,"description":"Guest: Jason Kelly, CEO and co-founder of Ginkgo Bioworks\nAlmost everyone in the second generation of biotechnology entrepreneurs, says Ginkgo Bioworks CEO Jason Kelly, works in that field because of one thing: Jurassic Park. The Michael Crichton novel-turned-Steven Spielberg movie captured both the wonder and beauty of bioengineering, and the challenges of bending DNA to your own ends. “You didn’t invent biology,” Jason says. “You need to have humility in the face of it ... because life will find a way. It will do things you don’t expect. It’s not a computer.” \nIn this episode, Jason and Joubin discuss the Wall Street rollercoaster, designer cells, the history of biotech, Herbert Boyer and Genentech, ChatGPT, extinct flowers, Sam Altman and YCombinator, first principles thinking, compounding risk, Patrick Collison, super-voting shares, capital intensive businesses, Pets.com, and why biology is like “freakishly powerful alien technology.”\nIn this episode, we cover:\nBeing private vs. being public (00:58)\nHow bioengineering works (04:27)\nJurassic Park (08:51)\nBiotech breakthroughs (12:15)\nWhy this field is not well-known yet (16:57)\n“The ChatGPT moment for biotech” (22:05)\nMeaningful stuff takes forever (26:23)\nGinkgo’s first five years (29:02)\nWhy the company went public (36:20)\nShort sellers, Warren Buffett, and Elon Musk (42:08)\nApplying AI to DNA engineering (47:57)\nThe long-term future (55:57)\nWho Ginkgo is hiring (58:39)\nLinks:\nConnect with JasonTwitter\nLinkedIn\nConnect with JoubinTwitter\nLinkedIn\nEmail: grit@kleinerperkins.com \nLearn more about Kleiner Perkins\nThis episode was edited by Eric Johnson from LightningPod.fm","thumbnail_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/jCea5f44KBONhOsyLyht9nXUrj2YBNfA6fc-kgyfWTM/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:400/h:400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS9zaG93/Lzk3NzAvMTY2Nzg2/MjQyOC1hcnR3b3Jr/LmpwZw.webp","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300}