{"type":"rich","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Transistor","provider_url":"https://transistor.fm","author_name":"The Abiding Leader Podcast","title":"The Abiding Leader Podcast – Ep 5: “Rethinking the Role of the Pastor”","html":"<iframe width=\"100%\" height=\"180\" frameborder=\"no\" scrolling=\"no\" seamless src=\"https://share.transistor.fm/e/aafc994a\"></iframe>","width":"100%","height":180,"duration":897,"description":"In this episode, we explore the difference between the spiritual gift of pastoring and the gift of leadership — and why confusing the two may be creating unhealthy expectations in the church. What if shepherding people and leading people are distinct gifts meant to work together rather than exist equally in one person? Join us for an honest conversation about church leadership, shared ministry, burnout, and building healthier church cultures that honour both pastors and leaders.","thumbnail_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/3XwqSlvm5XvFHnmDBjbezplUPE9-YdKPDWrIbq1s_NM/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:400/h:400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS83Y2Jm/YzhiMjlmODczZTkz/NjE5NWFhZmQ0N2Zj/MTJiZS5qcGc.webp","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300}