{"type":"rich","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Transistor","provider_url":"https://transistor.fm","author_name":"Built This Week","title":"It Ships While You Sleep. The AI Agent OS a Former Google Engineer Built After Leaving Google.","html":"<iframe width=\"100%\" height=\"180\" frameborder=\"no\" scrolling=\"no\" seamless src=\"https://share.transistor.fm/e/ab195c56\"></iframe>","width":"100%","height":180,"duration":1604,"description":"This week we sat down with David Petrou, CEO of Continua, to demo Wheely — an agent development operating system built for developers running multiple AI coding agents who are hitting the wall of mental overhead. David spent 18 years at Google, was on the founding teams of Google Glass and Google Goggles, and left when ChatGPT launched. We also covered the foldable iPhone, Android vs Apple for AI agents, Fable 5.1, Anthropic vs OpenAI on developer experience, and whether new programming languages designed for agents are coming.\n\nWe cover:\nWhat Wheely is and why David calls it an agent development operating system\n18 years at Google, Google Glass, Google Goggles, and why he left to start a company\nThe pivot from social AI to building the OS layer for multi-agent coding\nWhy token costs dropping does not solve the human attention problem\nHow Wheely decomposes problems, allocates agents, and knows when to interrupt you\nWhy Git and GitHub were designed for humans and need to be rethought for agents\nHow agent coding can modernize legacy code and rebuild bloated React frontends\nWho Wheely is actually built for and why the middle space is the opportunity\nWhy new programming languages designed specifically for agents could unlock major efficiency gains\nApple vs Android for AI — best hardware vs best OS for agent use cases\nHow Android can disintermediate apps by running them simultaneously off screen\nFable 5.1, Gemini 3.8 Flash, and the honest developer take on Anthropic vs OpenAI\nThe coevolution of models, harnesses, and programming languages\nWhether the foldable iPhone matters if agent coding eliminates the need for extra screen real estate\n\nIf you are building with AI agents, working in dev tools, or want to understand where the agent coding stack is heading, this episode is for you.\n\nFind David and Wheely:\nWebsite: wheelie.dev\nTwitter: x.com/dpetrou\n\nNew episodes every Friday at BuiltThisWeek.com\n\nTIMESTAMPS\n\n[00:00] Intro\n[01:07] Meet David — CEO of Continua and...","thumbnail_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/DcxLgyo52OTPB6vLXk0DQx0p7_qs5hQqaceutObHZhA/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:400/h:400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS8wZTY4/Nzk5NDcxMDdmNGIx/N2MzYzQzY2M2NWE2/MDAxMS5wbmc.webp","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300}