{"type":"rich","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Transistor","provider_url":"https://transistor.fm","author_name":"Matters: A podcast from Clio","title":"The Intersection of AI, Legal Reasoning, and Access to Justice with Damien Riehl and Jacqueline Schafer","html":"<iframe width=\"100%\" height=\"180\" frameborder=\"no\" scrolling=\"no\" seamless src=\"https://share.transistor.fm/e/ac5f2d47\"></iframe>","width":"100%","height":180,"duration":3287,"description":"Jacqueline Schafer, the Founder and CEO of Clearbrief, and Damien Riehl, Solutions Champion at Clio, are reshaping the legal industry by moving AI beyond the \"hype phase\" into practical, daily application. Drawing on their backgrounds—Jacqueline as a career litigator and former government counsel and Damien as a legal technologist—they provide a roadmap for navigating the \"trough of disillusionment\" toward a state of \"enlightenment\".In this Conversation, we explore:The power of Retrieval Augmented Generation (RAG): How connecting symbolic AI with LLMs reduces hallucination rates to near zero.The shift from hourly to value-based billing: Why AI efficiency forces a rethink of the ‘slowest lawyer wins’ model.”Access to justice: How shrinking the unit cost of legal work can unlock the \"latent market\" of 92% of unmet legal needs.Mentioned in this Conversation:Co-Intelligence by Ethan Mollick.","thumbnail_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/24szdUzMa2NAIvBKm3XXEYmjN5tzF9pRSv-nkL5QqtI/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:400/h:400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS8wODkw/MmQ3NTE1NTVmMWU0/NWU1MjdiNTlhNWFm/MzUwOC5wbmc.webp","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300}