{"type":"rich","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Transistor","provider_url":"https://transistor.fm","author_name":"Lead the People","title":"#189 Stop Calling Your Workers a Line Item (feat. Tracie Sponenberg)","html":"","width":"100%","height":180,"duration":1605,"description":"Most leaders can point to their P&L and show you exactly where the money moves. Ask them to point to their people on that same page, and the room goes quiet. For Tracie Sponenberg, who spent nine years as Chief People Officer at The Granite Group, a wholesale distributor with 700+ employees across six states, that silence is the whole problem. Her new book, The Frontline People Strategy, makes the case that distribution and manufacturing leaders have been treating their workforce as a line item instead of the asset that actually drives revenue, and that the fix starts with a mindset most executives have never been taught.\n\nMatt Poepsel sits down with Tracie Sponenberg, consultant and author of The Frontline People Strategy, to dig into why \"that's just the way it is\" is never a real answer for high turnover, why promoting your best forklift operator can quietly wreck your org chart, and why engagement is something you earn, not something you demand. Tracie draws on nearly a decade leading HR through four acquisitions and a pandemic to explain what it actually takes to build a culture for a deskless workforce, and why curiosity, not charisma, is the leadership skill that moves the needle.\nWhat  you'll learn:\nThe Turnover You're Not Counting: High turnover isn't just \"how the industry is\", it's a cost with a real number attached, and leaders who accept it as normal are leaving money on the table.\nExperience Before Engagement: Engagement is a byproduct of a good employee experience, not something you can push onto people directly.\nThe Promotion Trap: Rewarding your best frontline worker with a management role they're not trained for is a systemic failure, not an individual one.\nCuriosity as a Leadership Skill: Getting to know frontline workers as people, not job functions, is simple to describe and hard to practice, but it works.\nHighlights:\n(00:00) Meet Tracie Sponenberg\n(03:13) A first job that taught her about bias\n(04:34) Why \"show me your people\" exposed a...","thumbnail_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/gBXaSS69Fbpxgl9x7Oa1OVHc62HSffiZspToCexfb7k/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:400/h:400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS8xYmM0/OGUyYTE3ZTcwZDlm/ZWM4YmM3YzI0MWUx/MGZkOC5wbmc.webp","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300}