{"type":"rich","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Transistor","provider_url":"https://transistor.fm","author_name":"The Debrief Podcast with Matthew Stephen Brown","title":"Ep. 157 The Truth about Pastors | The Debrief Podcast with Matt Brown","html":"<iframe width=\"100%\" height=\"180\" frameborder=\"no\" scrolling=\"no\" seamless src=\"https://share.transistor.fm/e/b0a0e669\"></iframe>","width":"100%","height":180,"duration":4086,"description":"What does it take to lead a church? How do you know if you’re called to be a pastor? What does God have to say about it all? Listen in as Sandals Church pastors Matt Brown, Adam Atchison and Alfredo Ramos give real answers to your questions about pastors and church leadership.","thumbnail_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/py44cQPJTWBxiwJsHJe2C_Iu0nveNRA2PRzTvznoRpo/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:400/h:400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS9iNWFi/Y2M5YWZjOGZiODE2/NzAwNTZhYjNkMDk2/MWQ1OC5wbmc.webp","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300}