{"type":"rich","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Transistor","provider_url":"https://transistor.fm","author_name":"Marvel Movie Minute","title":"CATWS Minutes 61-65: Surprise Party Rules","html":"","width":"100%","height":180,"duration":1675,"description":"This week, Steve and Natasha take a working vacation to a defunct New Jersey SHIELD base, which — and you'll be shocked to hear this — turns out to have a giant secret elevator behind a bookcase. They descend into a Cold War server room that's been suspiciously well-dusted for an abandoned facility, plug a flash drive into a Univac the size of a Buick, and accidentally wake up a Swiss Nazi who lives inside a computer.\nThat Swiss Nazi is Arnim Zola, and he is delighted to see them. So delighted, in fact, that he immediately launches into the kind of full-disclosure villain monologue that would make a Bond henchman blush — explaining, with visible pixelated glee, that Hydra didn't die after World War II so much as it updated its branding and quietly took over SHIELD from the inside. The hosts dig into why a literal disembodied Nazi would just tell them all this, the suspiciously well-maintained dust patterns of the world's creepiest computer lab, and address the question of whether Natasha Romanoff, super-spy extraordinaire, would really fail to recognize Peggy Carter on a wall of heroes (Matthew has thoughts about institutional misogyny; Pete has thoughts about overthinking things).\nThen Zola drops the line that will haunt the next eight years of MCU continuity. PRESS PLAY!\nLinks & ResourcesArnim Zola on Marvel.com — Official Marvel character bio covering Zola's comics history, ESP Box, and post-war Hydra activitiesArnim Zola comics list on Marvel.com — Complete appearance index, including the Kirby-created debut in Captain America and the Falcon #208 (April 1977)WarGames (1983) on Letterboxd — Now officially canon in the MCU; Steve Rogers has seen it, which raises real questions about his post-thaw cultural curriculumOperation Paperclip on Wikipedia — The real-world U.S. program that brought ~1,600 Nazi scientists to America after WWII; the historical bedrock under Zola's entire monologueWernher von Braun on Wikipedia — V-2 architect turned Saturn V architect;...","thumbnail_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/JlOjETb_he-Cl9RIo-EmPIK5n5bllZ_Q1aRAfBGlSIE/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:400/h:400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS9iMzBi/NWYzMjA0MzBiNTQy/ODhhODNmNGEzNjVj/OTFiYi5qcGc.webp","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300}