{"type":"rich","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Transistor","provider_url":"https://transistor.fm","author_name":"The Dave Gerhardt Show (from Exit Five)","title":"Why the Next Era of ABM Targets the Person, Not the Account (with Casey Patterson, Snowflake)","html":"","width":"100%","height":180,"duration":1110,"description":"#405 | Dasha sits down with Casey Patterson, who runs North American ABM at Snowflake, to talk about what ABM looks like as AI reshapes it - live from Drive. Casey explains why the next era of ABM moves past the account to the individual, how her team goes from an account’s intent spike to a personalized gift in four days, and what she means by “tokenomics,” matching the right AI tool to each job. She shares how she inspires her team to disrupt their work a little every week so they never fall behind. Casey dives into her “database washing machine” project for cleaning expired marketing data and an agent that tells sales which event to invite each account to. In the end, Casey names one thing she won’t let AI replace (the direct sales connection), and her 2027 bets on account-based billboards and CMO-to-CMO video.\nTimstamps","thumbnail_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/qp2EGyx49zNMpcn-IwZXI3v-kD3r0QUel9Kwnpr1jPQ/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:400/h:400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS8zMzlh/ODVjZDNmNjY4Mzli/MTFlNzMxZDI4ZmJm/Yzc1MC5wbmc.webp","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300}