{"type":"rich","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Transistor","provider_url":"https://transistor.fm","author_name":"The Bigger Stage w/ Matt Stone","title":"Followers Don’t Build Businesses — Relationships Do | Heidi Medina on Conversation-First Growth","html":"","width":"100%","height":180,"duration":795,"description":"For years, we’ve been told that more followers, more content, and more visibility would lead to more business.But what if that story is backwards?In this pre-launch episode of The Building Business Relationships Show, Matt Stone is joined by Heidi Medina, a five-time entrepreneur and conversation-first business strategist, to challenge one of the most common myths in modern marketing:Followers don’t build businesses. Relationships do.Heidi shares how social platforms trained us to prioritize numbers, impressions, and algorithms—while quietly pulling us away from the conversations that actually create trust, referrals, and revenue.This episode explores:why follower counts rarely translate into real businesshow platforms incentivize performance over connectionwhat “conversation-first” marketing actually looks likewhy intention matters more than consistencyhow small shifts can unlock meaningful momentumThis is a practical, human conversation for entrepreneurs who want growth to feel more natural—and more effective.In this episode:A relationship that changed Heidi’s entrepreneurial pathFollowers vs real relationshipsHow platforms trained us to chase numbersContent as conversation, not performanceA real client example: small shifts, big impactWhy intention beats algorithmsFind Heidi Medina here: https://www.talkingintoprofits.com/","thumbnail_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/OiGNDWoL6ey5RaVnyCK3tOz2QkGk_QMUaVIV05K9nf4/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:400/h:400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS83OGUz/NWJhMzc2NTJiMzU5/NGQxOWJkNTA3MWE4/NmQyNy5qcGVn.webp","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300}