{"type":"rich","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Transistor","provider_url":"https://transistor.fm","author_name":"Sparks by Ignium","title":"Verne Harnish, founder of EO and Scaling UP on playing to WIN vs playing not to lose…","html":"<iframe width=\"100%\" height=\"180\" frameborder=\"no\" scrolling=\"no\" seamless src=\"https://share.transistor.fm/e/b8d023ad\"></iframe>","width":"100%","height":180,"duration":2412,"description":"Verne Harnish is founder of the world-renowned Entrepreneurs’ Organization (EO), with over  16,000 members worldwide, and chaired for fifteen years EO’s premiere CEO program held at MIT,  a program in which he still teaches today.  He first hosted Steve Jobs for his first public speech after he got fired from Apple and at that time reflected on the quote - it's ok to be independent but it's no reason to be alone – that thought prompted Verne to create Entrepreneurs Organisation and the Scaling Up methodology – designed to reduce the drama and chaos in scaling a business. You can learn much more from Verne in this next episode of Sparks by Ignium (#SbI) with Phil Rose.","thumbnail_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/yDHv2qxP6FC6kuI6nPuY0_RYfLW2nnYaGAbz7DmOgzU/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:400/h:400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS9zaG93/LzEyNzUxLzE2MjY3/ODI5MTctYXJ0d29y/ay5qcGc.webp","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300}