{"type":"rich","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Transistor","provider_url":"https://transistor.fm","author_name":"Oxide and Friends","title":"NeXT, Objective-C, and contrasting histories","html":"","width":"100%","height":180,"duration":4278,"description":"Oxide and Friends Twitter Space: July 5, 2021NeXT, Objective-C, and contrasting historiesWe’ve been holding a Twitter Space weekly on Mondays at 5p for about an hour. Even though it’s not (yet?) a feature of Twitter Spaces, we have been recording them all; here is the recording for our Twitter Space for July 5, 2021.In addition to Bryan Cantrill and Adam Leventhal, speakers on July 5th included Tom Lyon, Ian, bch, Theo Schlossnagle, Rick Altherr, and Nate. (Did we miss your name and/or get it wrong? Drop a PR!)Some of the topics we hit on, in the order that we hit them:First Twitter Space, May 3rdthe lost recording (~31mins)(possible?) genesis of the idea to record spacesAdam’s process for recording spacesSomeone (Sid?) mentioned NeXT’s transparent compensation modelOxide: Compensation as a Reflection of Values[@2:28](https://youtu.be/2H9XQBdLB0Y?t=148) Randall Stross book: Steve Jobs and the NeXT Big Thing (1993)[@4:42](https://youtu.be/2H9XQBdLB0Y?t=282) The SPARCstation 1 and the Sun-4c (campus) architecture > The hardware was not competitive, but dammit they sure looked good!NeXTcube[@9:15](https://youtu.be/2H9XQBdLB0Y?t=555) It’s nuts how much time and energy they spent on the look of it. > They were building a huge factory, just about the time people were > starting to outsource everything.Sun was doing incremental things, and Steve was going for the 100 yard pass.Apple Lisa computer > NeXT refused to interoperate with anything. > They had this idea that a NeXT customer is going to buy all NeXT machines.[@13:20](https://youtu.be/2H9XQBdLB0Y?t=800) NeXT was a really proprietary company, contrasted with Sun, a really open company. > Bill Gates volunteers that he would gladly urinate on a NeXT machine.They are attempting to reinvent absolutely everything, so they need all software to be written from scratch, effectively.Jobs does this over and over again at NeXT. He does things to make NeXT look bigger than it is.[@16:23](https://youtu.be/2H9XQBdLB0Y?t=983)...","thumbnail_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/cVYTzMGAZ_7gNn2i7iJYSuWlQOM4wHdJAzEuWrnLo9A/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:400/h:400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS80OGI3/NjA5NWY4Yjc4NzE0/ZGI5ZmMzZmY4MjFi/YThiYy5wbmc.webp","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300}