{"type":"rich","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Transistor","provider_url":"https://transistor.fm","author_name":"The Debrief Podcast with Matthew Stephen Brown","title":"Ep. 112 Getting Real with the Enneagram: Eight - The Challenger | The Debrief Podcast with Matt Brown","html":"<iframe width=\"100%\" height=\"180\" frameborder=\"no\" scrolling=\"no\" seamless src=\"https://share.transistor.fm/e/cea45e81\"></iframe>","width":"100%","height":180,"duration":5122,"description":"How can you be strong and driven without being a bulldozer? What does pursuing gentleness look like when it’s not something that comes naturally? Listen in as Pastor Matt and guests unpack what it’s like to be an Eight on the Enneagram.","thumbnail_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/py44cQPJTWBxiwJsHJe2C_Iu0nveNRA2PRzTvznoRpo/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:400/h:400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS9iNWFi/Y2M5YWZjOGZiODE2/NzAwNTZhYjNkMDk2/MWQ1OC5wbmc.webp","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300}