{"type":"rich","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Transistor","provider_url":"https://transistor.fm","author_name":"The Seismic Shift with Michelle K. Johnston","title":" Redefining Success, featuring Laura Gassner Otting","html":"","width":"100%","height":180,"duration":1944,"description":"A packed résumé, external validation, and a full scoreboard do not always add up to a satisfying life. Michelle Johnston welcomes Laura Gassner Otting for a lively, deeply honest conversation about the gap between achievement and fulfillment, and why so many accomplished people still feel empty after checking every box. Michelle and Laura explore how early definitions of success get planted, why they are so hard to outgrow, and what it takes to recalibrate once you realize the path you are on no longer fits. Laura shares her own story of heading toward law school, recognizing almost immediately that it was the wrong path, and making a bold pivot that eventually led her to the Clinton White House and the creation of AmeriCorps. The story becomes a larger lesson in permission: permission to change, permission to admit you were wrong, and permission to redefine success at every stage of life. Sharp, funny, and full of substance, this episode is a reminder that success without alignment can feel empty, but success rooted in self-knowledge, purpose, and real relationships can become something much more powerful.CHAPTERS:00:00 Welcome to The Seismic Shift00:35 Laura Gassner Otting on why success can feel empty02:17 Chasing goals that are not really yours04:44 From the what to the who06:08 Social comparison and redefining success07:00 What truly motivates people at work09:02 Law school, Bill Clinton, and a life-changing pivot11:47 Curiosity, reinvention, and pursuing a PhD15:02 From interesting work to rigorous research17:31 What Laura’s data reveals about leadership19:03 Why people leave when they do not feel seen20:09 Money, meaning, and what really matters21:54 Shared vision and the science of change23:51 The power of inspiration at work26:09 Carolyn’s story and redefining ambition29:11 What leaders must do differently now29:31 Laura’s top three leadership takeaways30:11 Closing reflections on success and serviceSpecial thanks to our friend Brian Wayy for the theme...","thumbnail_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/D2tDe0ZtfMCZ3nv5_47QQlEf1P6XT2RPjkWueECFh4E/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:400/h:400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS9mYjQ5/ODU0NmEzNGRhZjE0/ZWUzMjNmMmJlN2E5/NzE5ZC5wbmc.webp","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300}