{"type":"rich","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Transistor","provider_url":"https://transistor.fm","author_name":"People First! with Morag Barrett","title":"When Inclusion Isn't Easy with Dr. Riza Kadilar","html":"","width":"100%","height":180,"duration":1614,"description":"In this episode of People First!, Morag Barrett explores workplace relationships, leadership trust, and human connection with Dr. Riza Kadilar, discussing how leaders build Meaning-FULL Connectivity™ in increasingly disconnected workplaces.Dr Riza Kadilar is a global executive, leadership thinker, and author of The Contemporary Leader.They first met at Thinkers50 in London — a moment that became a living example of inclusion in action — and that spirit carries through this wide-ranging, honest conversation about what inclusive leadership really requires when things get uncomfortable.This is not a conversation about slogans, policies, or box-ticking. It’s about power, privilege, maturity, and the inner work leaders must do if inclusion is going to move from intention to impact.In this episode, you’ll hear:Why diversity is inevitable — but inclusion is notHow well-meaning leaders unintentionally undermine inclusion through everyday behaviourThe difference between being invited to the party and actually feeling able to danceWhy inclusion is as much an inner journey as a societal oneHow privilege shifts with context — and why awareness matters more than guiltThe paradox of inclusive leadership and the loneliness many leaders experienceWhy exclusion is easier to spot than inclusion — and how that awareness becomes a choiceHow curiosity, discomfort, and humility shape the contemporary leaderThis episode is for leaders who genuinely want to build cultures where people feel seen, heard, and valued — not because it’s fashionable, but because it’s essential for performance, resilience, and humanity.If inclusion feels complicated, uncomfortable, or even threatening at times — you’re not alone. This conversation helps name why.📘 Learn moreThe Contemporary Leader (Wiley)Connect with Dr. Riza Kadilar on LinkedIn","thumbnail_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/kDkFpX_U8xN4mpkRzl30lMyUBAsOu-vRJmAwdgX4Wig/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:400/h:400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS9iOGM3/ZjRhMTljYjY5OGJi/YmRmZTFkMTBjMzI2/YTBjNC5qcGc.webp","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300}