{"type":"rich","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Transistor","provider_url":"https://transistor.fm","author_name":"What Works","title":"EP 353: Dancing With Systems In Clickup With Lou Blaser & Sean McMullin from YellowHouse.Media","html":"","width":"100%","height":180,"duration":3583,"description":"\n\n\n\n\nIn This Episode:\n\n\n\n* Why Sean McMullin & Lou Blaser, from YellowHouse.Media, switched their project management software from Notion to Clickup (and why it’s not the right move for everyone!)* How they’ve reduced their podcast management procedure from 75 sub-tasks to 11 umbrella tasks* Why streamlining the procedure has allowed them to bring a more customized approach to each podcast they produce* How focusing on the system behind podcast production has helped them create a lot more capacity for new clients\n\n\n\n\n\nA couple of months back, I read a downright beautiful article about systems.\n\n\n\nYes, you heard that right: a beautiful, thoughtful, and useful article about… systems.\n\n\n\nIt was written by Donella Meadows, an influential environmental scientist and leading thinker on systems change in the 20th century.\n\n\n\nThe article outlines 14 principles for *dancing* with systems. But today I want to focus on the first: get the beat.\n\n\n\nWhen we talk about business systems, it’s easy to default to software, automation, or project management.\n\n\n\nBut a system is much more organic than that.\n\n\n\nAnd if we don’t allow for a system’s inherently organic nature, we miss out on really understanding that system in order to work with it, dance with it.\n\n\n\nMeadows explains that a mistake we so often make when we approach systems is that we see understanding the system as a way of predicting and controlling its output.\n\n\n\nShe writes, “The goal of foreseeing the future exactly and preparing for it perfectly is unrealizable.”\n\n\n\nI get that that might be frustrating—especially as we see data and the ability to instantly connect with customers as modes for the ultimate in business predictability.\n\n\n\nIt can also be a relief.\n\n\n\nIf the goal of understanding systems isn’t to control them or predict their output but to dance with them and learn from them, we don’t have to be so hard on ourselves!\n\n\n\nAnd that brings me to Meadows first dance step—get the beat. The mistake I see business...","thumbnail_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/AmfGeDL96-fhMaeOcqmX7TK_eWrvTLco6OJj2QpZtZI/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:400/h:400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS80NGUx/OWY5ZDg1M2E5MmU3/ZjEwOWVmNDM3MWVh/ZjZlOS5wbmc.webp","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300}